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cutter17

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I have a second Tyrade coming my way on this coming Thursday and I am still wondering if anyone has taken one apart yet. I was reading another post somewhere and it made reference that the cf inserts are glued in. I am thinking of taking my edc Tyrade and using a heat gun I have and try and remove the cf inserts so that I can take the Tyrade apart. Now you are probably asking "WHY", and I can't give a good answer except to say "because it is there". If this is possible and I can do it, I'm going to be asking STR to replace the fiber spacer bar with one made from ti or stainless steel. It will up the weight a tad, but I like a heavy folder anyway and have no trouble carrying the Tyrade because it is slim and fits the front pocket witout any printing.
 
Just checked and my Tyrade is in the mail to be delivered tomorrow. But now I'm having second thoughts on using the heat gun to try and soften the adhesive holding the cf inserts in place. I'm concerned about the amount of heat needed to soften the adhesive to the point that I can remove the insert and what effect the heat may/will have on the cf itself. Although I'm sure that this can be done, afterall if you end up with a broken speed-safe torsion bar the insert will have to be removed to allow access to the inside of the Tyrade. I have also thought about boiling the Tyrade to soften the adhesive to the point of removing the insert. Guess this is something I will need to think about before I do it. Any suggestions? Anyone remove the insert yet that can give me some pointers? Or should I just leave well enough alone and not worry about opening it up?
 
If you try to wedge them up you will ding the CF up. Eventually all Tyrade owners will cross this bridge of what to do when the torsion spring breaks because its not going to be the typical break down of the folder to get to the insides.

If you want my suggestion send it to Kershaw with a request to remove the carbon fiber inserts and replace the torsion bar for you when this happens. Personally on such an expensive and attractive folder I don't want the liability of screwing up the beautiful job they did on the finish or on the inserts by dinging them up with something trying to get them off until I know how they are on there and what lies underneath.

I somehow have it in my head that these inserts are more than glued down. It seems someone told me they snapped into a couple holes to
snug down in place. When all else fails you can ask someone at Kershaw I guess. Give em a call. Surely Tim or someone inside knows the scoop. If anyone gets pics of what it looks like under the CF inserts I'd like to have it posted in my forum if you don't mind. I've had several emails and contacts asking me about this already from knife nuts owning this one.

STR
 
Its not easy at all. I would advise against it. If you have a problem with a Tyrade, sending it in is your best option.
 
maybe for a small charge, Tim can do a pimp job on it for you.... (THAT'S A JOKE):D

I like the clean looks of the Tyrade, and to get that they had to do what they did.

If you want to have fun taking something apart, get an Offset. 2 torsion bars means double the fun! :D

cutter17 said:
I have a second Tyrade coming my way on this coming Thursday and I am still wondering if anyone has taken one apart yet. I was reading another post somewhere and it made reference that the cf inserts are glued in. I am thinking of taking my edc Tyrade and using a heat gun I have and try and remove the cf inserts so that I can take the Tyrade apart. Now you are probably asking "WHY", and I can't give a good answer except to say "because it is there". If this is possible and I can do it, I'm going to be asking STR to replace the fiber spacer bar with one made from ti or stainless steel. It will up the weight a tad, but I like a heavy folder anyway and have no trouble carrying the Tyrade because it is slim and fits the front pocket witout any printing.
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Tim Galyean said:
Its not easy at all. I would advise against it. If you have a problem with a Tyrade, sending it in is your best option.
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Oh, man, I wish you hadn't said that, because now I have this urge to take it apart just to see hot it fits together . . . .
 
Is attaching inserts/inlays in this manner going to be common in future?

Unfortunately sending a knife back to the U.S. for a torsion bar replacement isn't a viable option for some of us.
 
I wonder if destruction of the carbon fiber pieces upon removal is SOP, and perhaps Kershaw CS replaces them as a matter of course?
 
riffraff said:
I wonder if destruction of the carbon fiber pieces upon removal is SOP, and perhaps Kershaw CS replaces them as a matter of course?
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My guess would be that if you try to remove them yourself and damage them, they are not responsible to replace with new ones. But I'm not Kershaw and who knows what they would be willing to do depending on circumstances
 
OregonEdge said:
My guess would be that if you try to remove them yourself and damage them, they are not responsible to replace with new ones. But I'm not Kershaw and who knows what they would be willing to do depending on circumstances
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Right, I agree. I meant that if CS is replacing a torsion bar, for instance, it might be more expedient (and therefore cheaper) to yank off the old and slap new ones on. Of course, I have no idea what those little CF thingies cost to produce, either.
 
I'm guessing it uses that hi-strength sticky tape that CRK also uses. I bet if it's heated, it will peel off (Though I caution against playing around with graphite/carbon fiber as the strands are very small and really sharp and can be very problematic. It's also an inhalation hazard).

-dan
 
The CF fits pretty tight to begin with, and is secured with some Black Max. Off the record, soaking the handle in some Acetone should break the seal, and a very careful pry job (watch out not to damage the Ti) should get the results you desire. I don't want to hear about it if it all goes terribly wrong. Although I will send you another CF insert if needed.
 
That's Loctite 380. It's like black super glue. We used to sell that.
May still have some. Everyone always wanted it to fix plastic panels
and cracks in the cars interior.

It's not cheap either.

mike
 
I own 2 Tyrades right now, one for collecting and the other is part of my carry lineup. My carry piece had it's carbon fiber pieces fall off after about a week of use. They were held on with 3 small drops of glue and nothing more. The scales on my second Tyrade are still holding fine though. Looks like the glue didn't bond to the carbon fiber properly. I've been told Krazy Glue works wonders on this issue and will give that a try once I buy some. I'd like to leave the scales off, but the handle is inlayed with the design of the carbon fiber, so it looks a little "off" without the scales.
 
RoadMaster78 said:
I own 2 Tyrades right now, one for collecting and the other is part of my carry lineup. My carry piece had it's carbon fiber pieces fall off after about a week of use. They were held on with 3 small drops of glue and nothing more. The scales on my second Tyrade are still holding fine though. Looks like the glue didn't bond to the carbon fiber properly. I've been told Krazy Glue works wonders on this issue and will give that a try once I buy some. I'd like to leave the scales off, but the handle is inlayed with the design of the carbon fiber, so it looks a little "off" without the scales.
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When I was making custom parts in my R/C racing days, we used to use "crazy" glue to seal the ends of the graphite sheets/parts. It works really well with carbon fiber.

-dan
 
Roadmaster78
Could you post a picture of the handle with carbon fiber pieces off?
thanks
 
Doesn't look like I can post pics? I could email you a couple off the forum if you like.
Dano- Sounds good! I'm going to pick some up in my travels today and see how it works out.
 
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