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shane justice

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Just an observation from a maker's viewpoint.

I took a look at the new Tyrade in my local sporting goods store. I was drawn to the Bi-metal look.

It was ok I guess....but it seemed like more of a gimmick than an attempt at making a knife that performs better than a blade with a single steel and exemplary heat treatment.

To each his own. I was impressed by the "flipper" mechaism which was smooth like butter...and the lock was solid...there was no play or wobble.

HOWEVER...(here it comes) when I took look at the blade with a critical eye...the wheels fell off. The blade on this knife was round by a left handed person The ede was not in the center of the blade...

AND worse than that ....the difference in blade materials...caused the person who ground this blade to put a big "wallow" in it. From experience it looks like the difference in 'consistency/hardness' caused the belt to eat away more material in the 154CM than in the D2 edge.

Honestly guys...the series of "obbls" in the blae would have failed this knife had it been sumitted to an ABS panel of judges.

Now I may just be pickng nits..how you spen your bread I entirely your busines...

But if I were shelling out $300 I would want the most basic details
"dead-on"...instead of "sort of".

C'mon Kershaw...get it together.

Shane
 
Well, I'm looking at my Tyrade right now and the edge is dead center and symmetrical. This is often a property of US made Kershaw knives (I have eight of them and they are all symmetrical).

Furthermore, there is no 'wallow' or defect in my blade with the 154CM at all.

My impression of this knife was that the manufacturing, for what it is, is 'perfect' I couldn't fault it and I've examined every nook and cranny with my extreme quality control hat on.

I find it highly unusual that the specimen you saw had these imperfections.

Maybe it was resharpened (are you sure it is 'untouched' from the Kershaw factory) or there has been an exception is Kershaw QC.

I would recommend you see the item in another shop.

Did you manage to see the "Born On date" on the knife?
 
As far as other "shops" go...not in my little corner of the woods..small towns being what they are....

Perfect is a strong word. Glad you are happy with your knives. But I bet if you gave them to one of the ABS judges our idea of perfect would change.

This knife still had the factory edge. The trouble is in it was above the weld. Where the plunge grind begins.

Frankly, did not start this tread to get into a big woohoo.

Just my impressions...I really liked it unil I saw it up close.

Born on Date? Sort of like a cabbage patch kid? What is next? Adoption certificates?

I would also bet tat about 20 more people jump in and tell me how all of their knives are perfect too...an how it must be my failing eyesight...or how I must be on Mall Ninja with a bone to gnaw...None of the above.

I am a guy who has been lucky to have some amazing teachers.

Shane
 
It's also quite possible that there's a reason that particular knife is on display and not being sold; perhaps someone returned it for the very reasons you've pointed out. You never know. Perhaps as a display model, that shop should return it to Kershaw...they will surely take care of it.

That said, I must ask why you seem so defensive. You expect people to jump on you for your opinions ("...and everyone has one"), yet you come across as judging the entire company based on this one blade. Perhaps that's not what you meant, but that's the way it comes across.

Lastly, isn't ABS judging mostly for customs? Don't you find it a bit odd that you are ranking a production knife with the likes of custom mastersmiths?
Apples and oranges, as they say...

Perfect? No...better than the average Benchmade or Spyderco? Easily, and often less expensive, too. Works for me, but then, I don't hold production knives to custom f&f. :rolleyes:


EDIT: Oh, and I like the "born-on" date... might eliminate questions 100 years from now as to just how old the knife actually is (check out the "civil war Bowie" threads).
 
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Shane, in all seriousness and with no poking or sarcasm meant, you say you're a maker, but you are listed here at BF as a Registered User.

I would appreciate it (again, in all honesty) if you could post some pics of your knives, and their corresponding prices. I think it would only be fair to both you and Kershaw to do so. It would also be interesting to know where you saw this Tyrade. There are a few here that would like to know.

Thanks!
 
shane justice said:
Honestly guys...the series of "obbls" in the blae would have failed this knife had it been sumitted to an ABS panel of judges.
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Why would the ABS be judging a production knife? Isn't the entire point of buying handmade knives to get something with better fit and finish than what you would find on a production knife?
 
SPXTrader said:
Shane, in all seriousness and with no poking or sarcasm meant, you say you're a maker, but you are listed here at BF as a Registered User.

I would appreciate it (again, in all honesty) if you could post some pics of your knives, and their corresponding prices. I think it would only be fair to both you and Kershaw to do so. It would also be interesting to know where you saw this Tyrade. There are a few here that would like to know.

Thanks!
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I will definitely second this post. Let's see your work.
 
I have some Kershaws that are perfect, I have some that aren't... I have customs that are perfect, and some that aren't... yadda yadda yadda.

Same crap different day. Oh, almost forgot, I was wondering if the OP can build me a big Ti Framelock with premium steel and CF onlays for under 200 bucks? If so please PM me, 'cause you are my new bestest friend.:D

Commodore, nice post in no. 6:thumbup:
 
commodorewheeler said:
Why would the ABS be judging a production knife? Isn't the entire point of buying handmade knives to get something with better fit and finish than what you would find on a production knife?
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+1 on that. Shane, either you are here to troll or you have a personal beef with Kershaw products. Either way that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion. It is a production knife. In any production environment you are going to have glitches. One glitch does not denote the quality of an entire company's product. That is why you have warranty service, with Kershaw among the best in CS.
Without a production atmosphere these composite designs would probably not even exist. AFAIK no one else is even trying it, let alone putting it into production. Many Kershaw knives, especially sprint or boutique runs, have better F&F than many customs I have handled. And they are a third of the price. Please show us some of yours for our critique.
 
Well, I think we can close the book on this thread guys! Doesn't seem to be much point in continuing when we are all in agreement, right?;)

Cheers,
Jon
 
Yeah, shane justice has returned to other subs to discuss the really important issues that plague custom knife makers around the world.

I really would love to have seen pics of his customs tho...:D
 
shane justice said:
Frankly, did not start this tread to get into a big woohoo.
Shane
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