U Thai knifesmiths

fishface5

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So I've noticed a bunch of Thai makers posting knives on Ebay - apparently there is a thriving business over there in the handmade knife trade. The knives all seem to have natural handle material, sometimes in interesting combinations, mirror-polished 440C blades, and filework on the spine & backspacer.

I saw one that reminded me of a Charles Marlowe Bulldog design, which I have always liked, so I sprang for it. Impressions:

Man, it took 5 weeks to get here! And arrived in a package that was tied together with string - apparently tape is a customs no-no in Thailand.

Knife feels very sturdy, pleasantly heavy. The ergos on this one are great, you get it in hand and just want to start cutting stuff.

Knife has no pocket-clip, which is too bad for a knife this large and heavy (relatively speaking). But I can carry it in the back pocket where it won't get scuffed by keys, etc.

The handle scales -- ostrich bone and horn, I think the black stuff is -- fit together well, but not seamlessly - I will have to take it apart & sand them a bit, and report back on how effective that was.

The thumb-stud is a long post with a bone insert - not too excited about the insert, but I must say the long post makes the knife very easy to open.

The liner locks rock-solid, and is only 80% under the tang, so there's plenty of room for wearing in. The knife opens smoothly but the liner-lock does exert some friction on the blade just before it locks.

Oh - here's a problem - it's impossible to close this knife one-handed! Only because the opposite liner is not relieved at all, so the thumb just can't get into the gap to push the liner aside. OK, that's another task for the weekend, gotta take this apart and file back some of the liner w/a dremel tool.

The high satin blade finish is very well done (most of the knives posted seem to have mirror finish). I see the insides of the liners are polished too, and the maker etched his name in Thai on the inside of one of them.

The file-work is ok, not great. Frankly I would prefer some regular jimping on the spine for thumb traction, instead of the fancier filework.

Came sharp, shaves although not hair-popping. The grinds are very clean and pleasing, as is the edge.

Overall I would say this knife is well worth the $100 I paid for it - it will be a lot better once I address the unlocking issue and file the scales a tad (carefully - they have also been given a very high polish that I wouldn't want to mess up). It's really very pleasing to hold.

I'll be glad to answer any questions from others who have been eyeing these knives on the Bay. So far I'd say, as long as you are willing to do some finish work yourself, these seem like very worthwhile purchases.
 

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and here's another couple pics
 

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It's a gorgeous thing and no mistake.

Do you know what kind of steel they used for the blade?
 
All the Thai knives I have seen so far use 440C. I've seen pics of damascus blades, but only as examples none actually for sale.
 
Just a note to say that a 1/2-hour with a dremel & some sandpaper fixed the issue with the scales and the problem accessing the liner-lock. I also need to say that am really very very impressed with this design, it fits so comfortably and ergonomically in the hand when open that it puts past favorite folders to shame. If only it had a clip and weren't quite so heavy . . . . these may be other mods for a future weekend. Plus, it just looks so dang nice! Big thumbs up for this as a city knife. It may also be a great woods/work knife, but since it's so nice I'll use my grubbier knives for the hard stuff.
 
There was a table full of these at a recent knife show. They weren't bad at all...I hate the mirror finish on every knife but they did feel quite good in hand.
 
I think I could add a clip myself but it would really mess with the ergos and the looks on this knife. I have another one coming, a smaller gent's knife. The knives appear to be made by different guys on a team, with different designs, some being nicer than others. My knife actually has a high satin finish rather than a mirror polish, which I prefer. I note a lot of variation in the quality and expertise of the filework, based on the pics. I'll let y'all know how the next one looks, when it finally shows up in March . . . . .
 
Thanks for the detailed review.

I see these beautiful knives all the time on ebay, but was always afraid to gamble with $100 - $150.

I've also noticed they're a little more expensive than they were about a year ago...

Enjoy them both
 
I bought from "ccknifesmith;" there's another group called that I haven't purchased from (yet) called "cool-dragon-uk." I also asked ccknifesmith about making customer designs and they replied "send us your design & desired materials & we will contact you about it." So that's a nice wrinkle! I do note that at least ccknifesmith does not seem able to hide the bolster screws, I'll have to ask them about that. There's also a seller called "DC-partner" but they seem to be using the Spyderco hole and I doubt they have licensed it.
 
Well, the new gent's knife came today - arrived in 2 weeks rather than 5 this time! Excellent filework on this one. This knife is gorgeous in hand, really a stunning little gent's knfe (of course I'm a big fan of white scales & brushed bolsters, and the carved handle-screws on this one are just great). Blade just under 3" - it is slightly smaller, and maybe 1.7 times as heavy as, my Kershaw Splinter.

BUT - once again, this U-Thai knife needs to be taken apart & fiddled with, cleaned & realigned to make it user-friendly. In this case the blade was almost impossible to open one-handed. I took it apart and cleaned out a lot of gunk, sanded the extremely rough pivot bushing, reassembled it, discovered that the blade now rubbed against the opposite liner, broke it down again, reassembled . . . rinse and repeat several times until I have the blade almost perfectly centered when closed, but now one of the bolsters is slightly misaligned?!?!?!?!?

Anyway, it turns out that the geometry of the knife makes one-hand opening a little harder than normal (the location of the thumbstud so close along the horizontal axis to the pivot means the stud needs to be pushed slightly away from the handle rather than straight forward, if that makes sense). I will continue fiddling with it to strive for perfection. This confirms that these are nice knives for those with the will to mess around with them, since they don't come production-perfect.

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Yun - knifemaker from Thailand, uses ZDP-189 laminated by ATS-34. Production quality is amaizing. I am very happy with my Hard II knife - Titanium + G10 which is on the same line as Striders and ZTs IMHO even better because of better steel.

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More info in this thread:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531074

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Fishface5, Thanks for the review, in fact I bid on a knife that looks suspiciously like the gentleman's knife that you won. It's nice to know what I'm letting myself in for.
 
i had avoided these knives since another fellow in thailand said the majority of thai knifemakers don't know anything (literally) about heat treating steel.
any comment on that?
 
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