Uh-oh....the Victorinox beat em all.

[Lavan]

Last night I was cutting some leather scrap. Playin around with various knives.
Shouldn't play with knives.
The thick Schrade 165, even though sharpened to AWFUL sharp was ..terrible. It cut the leather, but that thick ole blade just made completion of the cut a chore.
The BM 910 was far better. The blade is thick but it wedged through much better.
Fallkniven semi convex 3G powder steel sailed through very neatly.
But the VICTORINOX cheap, handy, sharpernspit blade almost FELL through it.
It was what I ...expected... but not quite to the EXTENT that I expected.

I don't think ANY knife can outcut a SAK. Mebbe the SAK will need sharpening a bit more often, but if sharp it appears to cut BEST of any knife I own.

 

[gaj999]

Thin to win if you're looking for cutting ability.

Gordon

 

[Cliff Stamp]

The standard utility knives used by tradesmen (Olfa) will easily out cut a SAK, several times to one on thick material.

-Cliff

 

[johnwaynesandw]

Try getting an old Case knife with Carbon blades. I am sure it will out-cut a SAK any day of the week. I have a two blade congress from 1965 - 1969. The blades are very sharp and thin, which cut through a big phone book with no problem.


John

 

[darthsoaker]

Last night I was cutting some leather scrap. Playin around with various knives.
Shouldn't play with knives.
The thick Schrade 165, even though sharpened to AWFUL sharp was ..terrible. It cut the leather, but that thick ole blade just made completion of the cut a chore.
The BM 910 was far better. The blade is thick but it wedged through much better.
Fallkniven semi convex 3G powder steel sailed through very neatly.
But the VICTORINOX cheap, handy, sharpernspit blade almost FELL through it.
It was what I ...expected... but not quite to the EXTENT that I expected.

I don't think ANY knife can outcut a SAK. Mebbe the SAK will need sharpening a bit more often, but if sharp it appears to cut BEST of any knife I own.

I love SAK steel, it's soooooooo easy to sharpen to a hair poppin' to the next galaxy sharp.

 

[Lavan]

I like it too.

The SURPRISING one was how much better it cut than the FALLKNIVEN U-2.

Close.... but SAK outdid it.

Now....for durability.....welll.........

 

[shecky]

Sounds like a demonstration in blade profiles. A single edge razor blade at .010" thick, will often cut adequately even if it has no edge at all.

 

[msiley]

It's all about the geometery.
I have a Buck Duke with a very thin hollow ground blade
that will out slice any of my SAKs.

But yes, I agree, in general the SAKs are great slicers.
Much better then the thick tacticals.

 

[jkarp_53]

I'm one of those 'tradesmen', painting for a living. My EDC's usually involve one of my Benchmades, but my daily work knife is a $9 Sears Craftsman lockback with a quick change feature. Can't kill it. I've tried. Dropped it in paint, ran it through the dishwasher, left it in paint thinner, it just keeps ticking. Plus you got Sears' no questions asked policy...

However, I love the SAK Tinker I own, and agree, the thin blade is sharp, easy to touch up, and this knife always goes into the camping kitchen box, as the Mrs. likes to use it for prepping chores.

Now if Benchmade included a cork screw in one of their models, I'd line up for one!

 

[Stubai]

The SAK is easily one of the sharpest blades around. Thin profiles add up to great slicing ability, and, you don't have to be strong to cut well. The problem is that these 'keen kings' are easily damaged if you do any twisting. If you stick to slicing, the SAK is tough to beat by any contender. It is hard to go wrong with any of the red-handle cutlery. They are also fairly easy to sharpen, which is a blessing in the field. Some very talented and experienced outdoorsmen carry an 18 inch machete and a SAK in their survival kits. The remainder of cash that you've saved can be spent on a trip to Costa Maya.

 

[penls]

Try getting an old Case knife with Carbon blades. I am sure it will out-cut a SAK any day of the week. I have a two blade congress from 1965 - 1969. The blades are very sharp and thin, which cut through a big phone book with no problem.


John

:thumbup: yep. I have one of those, carbon steel + thin blade = OMG scary sharp

saks are good too :thumbup:

 

[z13ist]

ok so does anyone how the blade in a Multitool by Leatherman Gerber Sog would stack up against an SAK in a similar test?

i'm wondering, if blade geometry was less of a factor, if there is a little more to SAK compared to a typical multi-tool.

I've never owned an SAK but that's only because of function (I'd need the pliers more often).

 

[knarfeng]

ok so does anyone how the blade in a Multitool by Leatherman Gerber Sog would stack up against an SAK in a similar test?

i'm wondering, if blade geometry was less of a factor, if there is a little more to SAK compared to a typical multi-tool.

I've never owned an SAK but that's only because of function (I'd need the pliers more often).

I've owned and used Gerber, Schrade, and LM multitools and I EDC'ed a Vic Tinker for years. In my experience, for these blades it is 100% blade geometry that provides a performance difference. For cutting thick materials that would bind a thick blade, the SAK always outcut the multitool blades because the SAK has a thinner blade that would slide through. For cutting materials that did not bind the blade, all were about equal.

Also IMO this cutting experience of Lavan's is totally a function of blade geometry and has nothing to do with the other qualities of the blade.

 

[lambertiana]

The thin edge profile really makes a difference. Knives that I have that are similar to Victorinox are Opinel, Ritter mini-Grip, and some of the Eye Brand blades that I have.

 

[mkphc]

Try a Bark River, I have 3, Mini Canadian, Mikro Canadian, and a Mikro Slither, tiny but imho the best cutter i have,
geometry steel and convex!

 

[allenC]

Last night I was cutting some leather scrap. Playin around with various knives.
Shouldn't play with knives.
The thick Schrade 165, even though sharpened to AWFUL sharp was ..terrible. It cut the leather, but that thick ole blade just made completion of the cut a chore.
The BM 910 was far better. The blade is thick but it wedged through much better.
Fallkniven semi convex 3G powder steel sailed through very neatly.
But the VICTORINOX cheap, handy, sharpernspit blade almost FELL through it.
It was what I ...expected... but not quite to the EXTENT that I expected.

I don't think ANY knife can outcut a SAK. Mebbe the SAK will need sharpening a bit more often, but if sharp it appears to cut BEST of any knife I own.

I like Victorinox SAKs alot, but they don't really perform any better than other knives of similar grind and thickness.

Repeat the cutting with an Opinel and tell us what you think...

 

[jackknife]

I like Victorinox SAKs alot, but they don't really perform any better than other knives of similar grind and thickness.

Repeat the cutting with an Opinel and tell us what you think...

I just recently did a cutting test with a bunch of pocket knives, including a sak tinker and an Opinel. Some of the knives were almost hundred year old vintage carbon steel blades.

The Opinel outcut everything.

 

[bruce]

Last night I was cutting some leather scrap. Playin around with various knives.
Shouldn't play with knives.
The thick Schrade 165, even though sharpened to AWFUL sharp was ..terrible. It cut the leather, but that thick ole blade just made completion of the cut a chore.
The BM 910 was far better. The blade is thick but it wedged through much better.
Fallkniven semi convex 3G powder steel sailed through very neatly.
But the VICTORINOX cheap, handy, sharpernspit blade almost FELL through it.
It was what I ...expected... but not quite to the EXTENT that I expected.

I don't think ANY knife can outcut a SAK. Mebbe the SAK will need sharpening a bit more often, but if sharp it appears to cut BEST of any knife I own.

What Lavan? You didn't include a surgical scalpel, a Gillette "Blue Blade" razor blade, a USMC Kabar knife, or a carbon dioxide laser? What kind of scientific test you runnin' anyway?

Never mind, I think you discovered what many have long known. The SAK has more utility and gets more actual use than probably all the other knives put together (except kitchen knives)! ...and the price is right!

I've carried one form of SAK or another for over 30 years and am rarely found without one in my pocket, when I have a pocket! During my 23 years of Army service, I always had a SAK in my pocket, and while in the field, another folder or fixed blade. ...but the SAK got the most use. I give them away as gifts. My six grandchildren know that when they reach eight years old (both girls and boys) they get an appropriate SAK (so far, their parents have agreed and monitor their location and use). They all know, and look forward to the fact they will get a little silver box from Grandpa on their eighth birthday.

 

[freddy1]

I just recently did a cutting test with a bunch of pocket knives, including a sak tinker and an Opinel. Some of the knives were almost hundred year old vintage carbon steel blades.

The Opinel outcut everything.

Humm, try Doukdouk !

I was discussing with a friend last saturday during a knive show in Paris, he was showing me his collection of Sebies (large regular, small regular, various special editions, etc..)
Then the tricky question... "nice, but what do you use to eat everyday?"
"Hum... most of the time, usual Doukdouk !"
If you are looking for a real slicer, you can't beat a thin carbon blade !
You'll have to sharpen it quite often, might dull easely, but it's so sheap and cut so well, at the end of the day, it's the one you take!
Everytime i am going abroad and i have to take the plane, i am wondering.. which knife "deserve" to go on holiday with me ?
It might be stolen in the luggage, might be confiscated or lost....
So not my expensive custom and my less expensive BMs, Bradley etc...
My choice : "Basic SAK + DOUK" or "U2+Douk"...
because:
It cut really well... and if i lose it, i won't cry !