UK consultation - Licensing Knife Sellers and Importers.

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The UK Government has launched a consultation about licensing sellers and importers of knives:

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Licensing for knife sales (accessible)

www.gov.uk

The high points are:

It will apply to private individuals as well as businesses.

It will apply to second hand sales.

It will apply to UK based buyers buying from overseas retailers.

There will be vetting.

There will be a fee (renewable every 3 years).

If you care, please complete the consultation, if you are British consider writing to your MP and share with other groups you think might be interested.

If you are a non UK based retailer that sells to people in the UK then this may be of interest to you as well.
 
I'm very sad for you guys. When this legislation passes (and it will pass) it will spell the end of the hobby in the UK. Like all laws in the UK like this, as the years pass the legislation will become more and more onerous.

This is designed to stop all knife sales in the UK except for kitchen cutlery and even that will be heavily regulated. The next step will be mandatory forfeiture of all knives from deceased estates.

As someone who has a long history of the hobby in the UK it breaks my heart............ :oops:
 
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Kiri said:
The UK Government has launched a consultation about licensing sellers and importers of knives:

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Licensing for knife sales (accessible)

www.gov.uk

The high points are:

It will apply to private individuals as well as businesses.

It will apply to second hand sales.

It will apply to UK based buyers buying from overseas retailers.

There will be vetting.

There will be a fee (renewable every 3 years).

If you care, please complete the consultation, if you are British consider writing to your MP and share with other groups you think might be interested.

If you are a non UK based retailer that sells to people in the UK then this may be of interest to you as well.
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As much as I like the UK, I will not visit again. I have seen it once, and that is enough. I can't stand how they treat good and honest people. Not only that, but I see a lot of trouble there coming from mass unchecked immigration and being soft on crime. They apparently punish their own people with more and more laws that take away freedom. They would rather do that than deal with the troublemakers. It must be easier for the spineless politicians. I am sure our politicians in the Netherlands, where I live, gladly take over some of these new laws.
 
Perhaps the next thing to ban is expensive watches. So that the thieves in London don't get tempted and after that short dresses for women to not offend other cultures.
 
This has been coming for quite some time now, but there will likely be some clever workarounds. When all handguns got banned in the UK decades ago, gunsmiths got rather creative. Longer barrels and fixed stocks turned revolvers into carbines. Calibers didn't change, but the newly modified "handguns" now met the length requirements prescribed by law. I can see something similar happening with regards to knives.
 
BootKnifeFan said:
This has been coming for quite some time now, but there will likely be some clever workarounds. When all handguns got banned in the UK decades ago, gunsmiths got rather creative. Longer barrels and fixed stocks turned revolvers into carbines. Calibers didn't change, but the newly modified "handguns" now met the length requirements prescribed by law. I can see something similar happening with regards to knives.
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You sound like a "Glass is half full" kind of a guy and I admire that.

However I was in the UK when handguns were banned. The vast majority of handguns were destroyed. A small number were exported to the U.S. and Europe and only a tiny fraction of them were modified. Today all most none of them exist, and the gunsmiths who worked on them are all long gone.

There maybe a few die hard collectors willing to use clever workarounds, but the vast majority of people will just not buy knives.
10 years after the law is enacted there will be no importers, retailers, custom knife makers or collectors. It will all be gone.

The sad thing is if they think that this will stop inner city juvenile delinquents from stabbing each other, they are fooling themselves. All this is done for lip service, greater society does not benefit at all....... :oops:
 
Steven65 said:
You sound like a "Glass is half full" kind of a guy and I admire that.

However I was in the UK when handguns were banned. The vast majority of handguns were destroyed. A small number were exported to the U.S. and Europe and only a tiny fraction of them were modified. Today all most none of them exist, and the gunsmiths who worked on them are all long gone.

There maybe a few die hard collectors willing to use clever workarounds, but the vast majority of people will just not buy knives.
10 years after the law is enacted there will be no importers, retailers, custom knife makers or collectors. It will all be gone.

The sad thing is if they think that this will stop inner city juvenile delinquents from stabbing each other, they are fooling themselves. All this is done for lip service, greater society does not benefit at all....... :oops:
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True. But the manufacture and/or modification of a firearm is much more complicated than the manufacture of a working knife. Heat-treated steel to handle the pressures of modern centerfire cartridges (especially magnum cartridges) being just one of the challenges involved. A knife, on the other hand, can be handcrafted from sheet steel or even scrap metal. At a craft show in Alabama, I saw a knife that was made from a railroad spike. The man who forged it told me that railroad spikes have excellent steel and that he has made and sold several of these knives. Here in the United States, plenty of deadly homemade "shanks" have been used in fatal stabbings and slashings in federal and state prisons, including high-security "supermax" prisons. If the intent of the UK authorities is to stop their Third World refugees from killing each other with knives, they are in for a rude awakening. Not going to happen.
 
Try as they might, this is an ill attempt at a total draconian ban on knives.
If need be, a "prison shank" can be fashioned from most debris found anywhere.
Laws such as these are mostly created out of irrational fears
(This is not an endorsement on crime)
 
DeadPineKnives said:
I irbailey I know this burns your ass...
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Yep.

Same old story.

Keep clamping down on everything except the actual problem, because someone might get offended, then clamp down a bit more when that doesn't work.

Handguns banned 29 years ago (well, not strictly 100% banned, but legislated so heavily that it might as well be)

Current firearm most used in violent crime in the UK according to Govt statistics?

Yep. You guessed it. Handguns.

It worked nearly as well as the Drug Act of 1971.

No more drugs after that. No Siree.

I could go on, but I'd probably get arrested and locked up for two or three years for an 'internet hate crime'.

It's all very depressing.
 
UK's "subjects" should start making any planned purchases now, not later, when it will probably be too late. Rule of threes: purchase three of any desired knife. Keep one for use and cache the other two in a safe location. Pay with cash or a gift card so the transaction cannot be traced by name. Never know what will be banned from sale and unavailable next.
 
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