i remember a thread started by codger about ulster b.s.a. knives, and i decided to get me one. i had previously been using a camillus b.s.a. knife, but since i got the ulster, i canned the camillus. the ulster has darker, more toned handles, and it also ha brass liners which the camillus didnt. i have found the quality of the ulster is much better than camillus. i also managed to snag my daughter a imperial girl scout knife. its not old, but it works for her. thanks codger for sharing those articles about ulster knives. if i hadnt seen'em, i wouldnt have ever known they made'em. i think the ulster boy scout knives are a great addition to any collection, i sure am enjoying mine!!!