Ulster Camel Filter offer for The Whittler

The offer appears to coincide with the Prince Albert offer, so it is probably also a 58OT Ulster offered. I think we decided the PA offer began circa 1963, and they gave a generous ten year deadline on it (and LT says that according to Dave Swinden, they honored it far beyond that date). Search the Schrade collector site for the "Prince Albert Story", and "Prince" here in the forum. A good find there!

Codger:thumbup:
 
I did Codger...and I still can't find any reference to the Camel Filter offer from Ulster. I'm matching up the knives...I'm looking at my Prince Albert can...it's nearly identical artwork used when comparing the 58OT on the PA can.

My guess is that it was indeed the 58OT that was offered. Just wondering if, as early as the 1970, Schrade was engraving the blades with Camel, sorta like they did on the more recent tobacco offers.
 
Nice waliguy
Where did you find the matches?
They must have had a lot of those 58OTs left over....years of them!

Dale
 
Dale -- got 'em on ebay this week. And if you think there are lots of 58OTs around, think about how many matchbooks are as well!
 
Well, we must remember that the Ulsters and Schrades were usually made in the same factory, and on the same machinery, and by the same hands, and Ulster tangstamps continued at least until the mid seventies, if not later. But LT gave us some astounding production figues a while back on how many of the PA offers were filled. Did you find that? It was WAY more than might be considered "getting rid of obsolete inventory". I had not seen the Camel offer either, but it does not surprise me at all. They did do a later campaign for Camel with the etches, but I've never seen the 58OT Camel etched. The ones I saw were from the late eighties/early nineties. textoothpk has at least one if not more patterns of these, but I think it was a second campaign.

lt632ret 2-01-06 said:
These three modelsl were the only OT knives under the Ulster tang. Although as brought out the same pattern was used on contracts ect. I am attaching a picture of a full set including coupon that I presently have on display in Ellenville. To answer another question of the three patterns 400 THOUSAND of these knives were sold under this promotion. In fact last night at the Ellenville exhibit we had the walk through for the public I also babbled for 2 hours and I had the honor of having ( The legend ) Dave Swinden there to help out with knowledge. Strangly enough this very promotion came up in conversation I then told the story of the integrity of Schrade by telling the story of how 20 years later (well into the eightys ) someone sent in the coupons and 2 dollars and Schrade being Schrade sent a letter of apology that the promotion had ended and that these knives were no longer available however they were sending the then made nearest version ( then being made in lieu ). In other words they still honored the coupon. Now, that I though that was a pretty good story however Dave topped it he explained how so many knives were being requested that the eventually needed 3 girls to open the letters ( which almost all had 2 one dollar bills in them ) Yes in those days you could still send money in the mail, he told of a large envelope coming in requesting a knife when one of the girls opened it and stuck her hand in the envelope she let out a scream. It seems a southern fellow had put a muskrat pelt in as payment his note explained that he did not have the 2 dollars but that the muskrat pelt should cover it. By the way Schrade sent the knife. LT
 
It is these type of stories that make collecting Schrades and delving into Schrade history so much fun. It gives each product some animation and life to it, knowing the kind of company and people who made the knives.

BTW Codger, I got a Cats Paw (197UH) recently. It just seems to be an extension of my hand. An excellent fit. I also decided to make one of my 897s a EDC. When I compared it to my favorite 61OT I discovered it is quite a bit shorter. A nice compromise between the 61OT and the 34OT. I will have to see if I can get used to the stainless steel.

Dale
 
I've been yearning for a 197 for a while myself. Curiosity, I guess. No secret I EDC the 897, and have for years. With my work, I find the two other blades handy at times when the thin tipped Turkish clip just won't do.

Schrade trademarked the name "CAT PAW" in 1981, the same year the 197UH was introduced. They only made them for nine years. Got it on my "gotta-have" list.

Codger
 
The Cats Paw is about the same size as the 897, but a bit thinner and more rounded....it just feels good in my hand. I was surprised when I got one on ebay for less than $20 with shipping. Must have gotten under someones radar.
 
Great! I never knew that one existed. I'll send it to Larry for posting on the photo site.

Fantastic find...

Phil
 
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