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I watched an episode of this and was so fried up after it. This guy seems like a complete moron. Here are a few examples:

He goes into a 40 degrees cold river and hopes to travel 12 miles. Not to me that sounds like an easy way to get hyperthermia. (speliing)

Another is when he hears a noise in the woods at night whens its dark out. He then gets up and runs around hoping to scare w/e it is away. He said this would not have been possible if it weren't for the light from the camera crew. Well i got news for him: In most survival situations there isn't a camera crew following you around.

Another is when he jumps of a this small cliff. Now that just sounds dumb.


Note i was watching this right before i fell asleep so i may not have comprehended everything he didbut some of this stuff just sounds so dangerous.


So if someone could please explain why he did the things he did please tell me.
 
I agree the show was worthless for anything other than entertainment. who realy expected some brit to know anything about survival? he seemed like a complete moron to me as well. I like the show with the canuk better. he had a camera crew following him around and they obveously helped him and it was edited. also you notice his paracute become a backpack? whered he find that
 
Ultimate survival show -YEP It was one of the worst shows on survival I have ever saw.
 
After seeing it the first time, and thinking how stupid some of the things he did were. I read somewhere, maybe in here about how the guy from the other survivor show had something to do with his show,and how disappointed he was with the whole thing. He goes on to point out how he was wearing a life jacket under his sweatshirt, and a real repelling harness when he was a little further down the cliff. I saw the show for the second time, and sure enough you could tell he had a life jacket on in the river, but to hard to see if he had a harness on or not. It seems a little crazy to do a show like that knowing that somewhere out there some kids will probably try to duplicate what they saw on TV.
 
Everything he did seemed choreographed and scripted to me. Some of the things he did were just silly like running from a bear which was stalking him in his imagination. Other things would be foolhardy and risky unless they were practiced beforehand like jumping of the cliff into the stream without knowing the depth of the water. If the roiling and opaque water had turned out to be shallow, he would have been smashed or drowned. He ran down steep hills and did somersaults; All kinds of crazy antics hardly consistent with survival.

It was an artless dramatization which I doubt would fool the most domestic housewife.
 
when and where does it air. I've got to see this guy. Just moved, and new dish is coming today:D
Jeff
 
The problem is that you have fairly serious survival programs like Mears Extreme Survival and this idiot's Ultimate Survival and people will confuse the two. Some things in Mears' program may save your life if you remember it, but it just muddies the water to have bad advice from the other show.
 
Yeah I saw it and oddly enough was hoping a bear would get him. I like Les Stroud better this guy was sure to get himself killed if the crew wasn't around.:jerkit:
 
tripletrash said:
I agree the show was worthless for anything other than entertainment. who realy expected some brit to know anything about survival? he seemed like a complete moron to me as well. I like the show with the canuk better. he had a camera crew following him around and they obveously helped him and it was edited. also you notice his paracute become a backpack? whered he find that
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Jee I guess the Yanks dont go to the Belize survival school with SAS then, because they know so little, or Mears, clueless, or Lofty Wiseman. Don't you think this could have been edited for shock/entertainment apeal?

I know that the Guy in the show and the consultant are both pro's, I know that both of them are extremely upset about the editing as well.

Look at Wilderness ways, here, the Hoodlums and look and count over time the amout of people that contribute. Plain and simple we are a minority. Paris Hiltons escapades if held on the same night on a different channel would sink a real survival show after the first episode. If there is a chance that the guy might jump off a cliff or be attacked by a bear, well, it makes for a more attentive audience. Its about ratings, nothing else matters to TV people.
 
If you check survival.com, posts from a couple weeks ago you will see that this
program qualifies for the FUBAR award.
 
So I'm not the only one that thought it was just laughable...I think it was the part after he gets out of the river (in which he claims to have gone 12 miles), when he sits there talking to the camera about his wife and kid, that got me. It just sounded like... bad acting. And there was an awful lot of stuff that made him look like a total moron.

At least on Survivorman, Les is his own camera crew, and he's not a complete idiot.
 
Yea, the show was kinda beat but I'm with Temper, It wouldn't last to its second episode if it were the way WE wanted it to be. Ratings baby, ratings.
 
For the people that wanna know, its on the discovery channel usually around 10 o'clock. I'm not sure what days its on however.

And yea i like Les Stroud a lot better than this guy:thumbup:
 
Even Les Stroud felt bad for Bear, and for Ron Hood, who advised on that show. They were completely and utterly victimized by post-production Discovery Channel editors, who completely changed the whole premise of the show, and removed the educational aspects. It was originally a "here's why this DOESN'T work, and why this other thing does."

Here's the recent thread on the subject: pleae read it all, including the link to Ron's forum, before you pass judgement on Bear and Ron, who had no "say" in the outcome.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393567&highlight=ultimate+survival
 
tripletrash said:
I agree the show was worthless for anything other than entertainment. who realy expected some brit to know anything about survival?
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Me, actually. Drake and Morgan, Scott, Shackleton, Livingstone, and the SAS all spring to mind.
 
Brian Jones said:
Even Les Stroud felt bad for Bear, and for Ron Hood, who advised on that show. They were completely and utterly victimized by post-production Discovery Channel editors, who completely changed the whole premise of the show, and removed the educational aspects. It was originally a "here's why this DOESN'T work, and why this other thing does."

Here's the recent thread on the subject: pleae read it all, including the link to Ron's forum, before you pass judgement on Bear and Ron, who had no "say" in the outcome.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393567&highlight=ultimate+survival
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Your the man Brian....
this is the other post I was talking about, but I think I got some of the people confused in it. For some reason I was thinking that ( I think it Les on the other show ) was the one who was being consulted with on the other show. I'm not sure who exactly Ron Hood is, and Bear. I apologize for mis quoting anybody, and no offense intended
 
Some have noted that the show was dramatized for shock value in order to increase ratings. Of course this is absolutely true. But to people with an informed awareness wilderness survival, it comes across as unconvincing and crudely made.

The question is, were John/Jane Q public were taken in by it as well? It would be interesting to know if the show suceeded in getting higher ratings than the more legitimate and informative shows on the subject. Somehow, I think not but most of those who post on this forum see it through different eyes than most.
 
In a real survival situation the moron wouldn't last eight hours. It's sad that this crap is being watched by some who actually believe this is the real deal.
 
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