Mine came loose today. I'll probly just locktite it. My question though is the clip the same as the sebenza? If so hows the clip on it durability wise?? I've had alot of benchmade clips get real loose. Also what is the clip made out of?? If it gets stretched can I just bend it back?? Or should I get a spare. I'm gettin ready to deploy and I need to know if I should order an extra one. Thanks
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Sorry to blaspheme, as you know I'm a Seb-lover for life, but:
CRK, NOTHIN' BUT LOVE FOR YA, BUT WTF?
Why, oh why, are screws coming loose? Why are people talking about Loc-Tite? You haven't secretly shifted your manufacturing overseas and not told anyone, have you?
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Now that that's off my chest, Joebobx, did the screw actually back out, or did the clip itself, still screwed in, rotate in the clip cutout? If the screw backed out, I would simply tighten it back down with some torque on the Allen wrench; I would not use Loc-Tite, as I've heard of even the blue variety causing enough hold that the Allen wrench strips out the head of the clip screw when trying to remove the clip again down the road. The 303 screw will gall enough with the ti threads to not back out again, thus making Loc-Tite unnecesary. If the clip rotated in the clip cutout, then remove your clip (which is titanium, to answer your question), apply a less-than-paper-thin coating of epoxy or polyurethane glue only to the portion of the clip that sits in the clip cutout on the handle, allow to completely dry or cure before re-assembling, then re-assemble. The "gumminess" created by the epoxy or glue will keep the clip from moving inside the clip cutout. I actually do this on all my Seb's, to prevent clip movement in the clip cutout from happening in the first place. If you EDC your Seb, after a number of years, that movement tends to happen (at least to me).
My EDC small Seb's clip started moving around inside the cutout, and I did the epoxy trick and you could probably stand on the clip now without it moving at all.
To answer your other question, the ti CRK clips are quite bending and forgiving (considerably moreso than stainless clips such as BM clips), but do scratch easily, as does the ti finish of the knife. To increase tension if stock tension is not enough, or if you snag something and bend it outward, take your clip off (preferably before you do the epoxy trick aforementioned, if that was indeed the problem), tape up the end with the screwhole to prevent scratching, put the taped end in a vise or locking pliers, and bend inward to increase tension. It works like a charm on the newer CRK clips, which are a lighter (thinner) gauge ti than the older clips.
Good luck to you, God Bless, and thank you for your service to our country!
Professor.
CRK, NOTHIN' BUT LOVE FOR YA, BUT WTF?
Why, oh why, are screws coming loose? Why are people talking about Loc-Tite? You haven't secretly shifted your manufacturing overseas and not told anyone, have you?
___________________________________________________
Now that that's off my chest, Joebobx, did the screw actually back out, or did the clip itself, still screwed in, rotate in the clip cutout? If the screw backed out, I would simply tighten it back down with some torque on the Allen wrench; I would not use Loc-Tite, as I've heard of even the blue variety causing enough hold that the Allen wrench strips out the head of the clip screw when trying to remove the clip again down the road. The 303 screw will gall enough with the ti threads to not back out again, thus making Loc-Tite unnecesary. If the clip rotated in the clip cutout, then remove your clip (which is titanium, to answer your question), apply a less-than-paper-thin coating of epoxy or polyurethane glue only to the portion of the clip that sits in the clip cutout on the handle, allow to completely dry or cure before re-assembling, then re-assemble. The "gumminess" created by the epoxy or glue will keep the clip from moving inside the clip cutout. I actually do this on all my Seb's, to prevent clip movement in the clip cutout from happening in the first place. If you EDC your Seb, after a number of years, that movement tends to happen (at least to me).
My EDC small Seb's clip started moving around inside the cutout, and I did the epoxy trick and you could probably stand on the clip now without it moving at all.
To answer your other question, the ti CRK clips are quite bending and forgiving (considerably moreso than stainless clips such as BM clips), but do scratch easily, as does the ti finish of the knife. To increase tension if stock tension is not enough, or if you snag something and bend it outward, take your clip off (preferably before you do the epoxy trick aforementioned, if that was indeed the problem), tape up the end with the screwhole to prevent scratching, put the taped end in a vise or locking pliers, and bend inward to increase tension. It works like a charm on the newer CRK clips, which are a lighter (thinner) gauge ti than the older clips.
Good luck to you, God Bless, and thank you for your service to our country!
Professor.
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If I were you and I was deploying soon, I would spend the $15-20 and get an extra clip and clip screw from CRK. Ya never know. I've had non crk knives snag on objects and hyper-extend or even break a few of my clips (again, non CRK, I haven't had my sebenza long enough to do that yet).
Assuming that you will have on a lot of gear and are going to be on the move, it would be really great to have some comfort knowing you have an extra clip just in case.
Pretty much everything else professor said, titanium everything - clip included. Oh yeah, and before you apply too much torque to your clip screw, I've discovered that my sebenza's clip screw is actually a torx head and not an allen wrenches hexagonal shape. It will snug it up, but be sure that it's the right type of screw before you try to apply too much pressure tightening it, you could strip out the head.
Thank you for serving and God bless, J.
Assuming that you will have on a lot of gear and are going to be on the move, it would be really great to have some comfort knowing you have an extra clip just in case.
Pretty much everything else professor said, titanium everything - clip included. Oh yeah, and before you apply too much torque to your clip screw, I've discovered that my sebenza's clip screw is actually a torx head and not an allen wrenches hexagonal shape. It will snug it up, but be sure that it's the right type of screw before you try to apply too much pressure tightening it, you could strip out the head.
Thank you for serving and God bless, J.
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Yeah, sorry for the rambling tirade, but sure seems like things are different with CRK these days. I hope I'm dead wrong, as this is a company I am highly, highly fond and proud of as microcasm of what American labor is capable of. Probably a simple matter of higher demand and increased manufacturing equaling less attention to detail.
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Put some loctite on it and call it good....if you ever need to remove it, just put some heat on it and remove it.
FWIW, I've never had any problems with any of my Sebenza screws backing out under regular EDC use, over 9 years or so. Thread friction alone seems to work just fine. It feels to me like CRK intentionally over-cuts the threads at the pocket clip to keep good friction on them, and of course there is also the natural galling between the two metals.
I would be careful about using thread locker, and then not being able to disassemble the knife if necessary. That could be a cure worse than the disease.
If I did use locker, it would be just a very small amount... just enough to add a little point of extra friction. As long as the clip stays in its mortise, it's not going to be able to transmit any torque to the bolt. All you need is enough friction in the threads to resist whatever vibration might be transmitted to the knife. Anything more, and you're risking damage to the female threads if you have to take the clip off without heating the bolt.
Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
I would be careful about using thread locker, and then not being able to disassemble the knife if necessary. That could be a cure worse than the disease.
If I did use locker, it would be just a very small amount... just enough to add a little point of extra friction. As long as the clip stays in its mortise, it's not going to be able to transmit any torque to the bolt. All you need is enough friction in the threads to resist whatever vibration might be transmitted to the knife. Anything more, and you're risking damage to the female threads if you have to take the clip off without heating the bolt.
Don't fix it if it ain't broke.