Not sure if folks know this already, but thought I would pass it along. I talked with CRK yesterday to ask about the takedown tool for the Umnum. I was told that that CRK is working on a kit to go along with the Umnum and that it will contain the takedown tool. These kits should be available soon as CRK is currently deciding what all will be included in the kit.
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Umnum takedown tool
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Wow. I think I'll stick with the Sebenza. Umnum is a little too fancy for my taste.
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That my friend, stinks. From a bottom line I can understand the plan, as they can sell a tool to us goobers, BUT a company should not alienate their customers.
They supply a hex wrench for the Sebenza, but not a specialized key for this one?
I know some custom makers use them because they don't want us poking our fingers into the guts of the knife, but these are supposed to be hard-working tools that need to be cleaned periodically. I know, I know, a good many owners don't use the knife in this fashion, but still.
Besides, how long will it take an enterprising soul, perhaps in this forum, to start making some of these keys? I think I might prefer to buy one from here than from Chris Reeve Knives. Or, maybe I'll see how hard it is to make one.
Poor marketing plan, in my opinion.
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They supply a hex wrench for the Sebenza, but not a specialized key for this one?
I know some custom makers use them because they don't want us poking our fingers into the guts of the knife, but these are supposed to be hard-working tools that need to be cleaned periodically. I know, I know, a good many owners don't use the knife in this fashion, but still.
Besides, how long will it take an enterprising soul, perhaps in this forum, to start making some of these keys? I think I might prefer to buy one from here than from Chris Reeve Knives. Or, maybe I'll see how hard it is to make one.
Poor marketing plan, in my opinion.
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It's my understanding that the Umnumzaan wasn't slatted to be available till sometime in December; not that it explains why a tool has yet been made available to the customer. Just maybe they were in a hurry to get these out to us and haven't yet had time for minor things like a takedown tool. I know they have moved recently.
I requested one way back when I received my prototype and was told then that they were working on one. My guess it will be an aftermarket item that will probably cost around $10 bucks to have one drop shipped to us. Don't knock the company too hard, at least we have the production knife in our grubby hands.
I requested one way back when I received my prototype and was told then that they were working on one. My guess it will be an aftermarket item that will probably cost around $10 bucks to have one drop shipped to us. Don't knock the company too hard, at least we have the production knife in our grubby hands.
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This is what happens... first Prod run and stuff... There giving this knife away for $400! Every single person who bought this first run would pay more for a new Reeve. Now... youre gonna buy the tool, and keep complaining! HA HA HA!!! I've been a CRK carrier for 8 years now. When I was a noob, I LOVED to take it apart monthly to perfectly clean it. ...The last few years, I've prolly taken apart a sebby twice MAYBE. REALAX fellas... your tool will come... It'll be nifty, and you'll buy it and love it! FOR NOW, ENJOY what is looking to be a REAL nice knife...GO CUT STUFF!!
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The Umnumzaan protos were basically handmade/assembled by Chris himself to test-drive his design and manufacturing concepts. He and the rest of the CRK staff learned a lot from them, and many modifications (some that you readily see, some that you can't w/o major scrutiny and hints) have been made to arrive at the production Umnumzaans of today. The protos are analogous to the "H" Sebenzas, which served the same purpose.
Life at CRK has been challenging these last couple months, getting the new facility ready to receive us, planning for the move, packing, the physical move itself, then unpacking, reconnecting everything and getting resituated to resume business. It's been an over-whelming task, and the entire staff is just exhausted. Meanwhile, with all of this happening, Umnumzaan production timing couldn't be worse. We know that it's frustrating for our customers to put in a new product order, and then endure a long wait. We considered taking the easy way out, and pushing out the 1st shipment of Umnumzaans until well after the move, but instead decided to push ourselves and get the product well underway BEFORE the move. We hope you appreciate the extra effort from the staff -- they really went the extra mile in getting the new Umnumzaans to you this early.
BF users, on average, are not our typical users. We enjoy hearing your take down / assembly experiences with the Sebenza. That's what it was made for, and its design simplicity that enables disassembly sets it apart from other knives on the market. Even so, as we poll the overall population of Sebenza owners, we find that it's only a small percentage of you that even remove the hex wrench from the box. With this realization, Chris designed the Umnumzaan, focused at the typical customer that simply enjoys the CRK quality and robustness, and has no intention of tinkering. In doing so, there were design constraints that were removed such that Chris could employ new concepts in today's Umnumzaan. Acknowledging the presence of a small percentage of tinkerers, he's accommodating them with a more complete maintenance kit, which we have designed. It will take us a bit of time to work the logistics to make this kit available. Meanwhile, until then we ask for your patience, and ask that you just enjoy your new knife.
Regards,
Dave
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Has anyone tried to take the pivot assembly apart? The 4 pin arrangement is similar to the ZT0500 MUDD and I took that pivot out using two small metal rods and fitting them into two of the holes, and then using a screwdriver crossed between them to unscrew the pivot. I have set this up on my Umnumzaan, bot with it having two pivot pins the same, all it will do is turn the entire pivot assembly. I'm wondering if the takedown tool is two piece to attatch to both pins?
Dave,
It would be very interesting if you please could tell something about the modifications between the protos and the production knives. What has happened?
Best regards