Umnumzaan takedown tool

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Well I finally sold my large Classic Sebenza and picked up a new Umnumzaan.

I wish I could have kept both - but times being what they are I can't.

I felt like the Umnumzaan was a lot closer to what I was looking for in a CR folder.

I now need to secure a takedown kit.

I have seen the rather inexpensive ones that a few distributors sell - but I thought I read somewhere that they were plastic.

Does anyone have any experience with these? If so - please let me know if this holds up over time.

I thought someone was also making a "custom" takedown tool - but not sure where I read that.

Thanks.
 
And, should you slip, the Delrin (which is very, very tough stuff) won't scratch anything.
 
Yeah you're better off with the plastic ones. I've got a set but I never actually used it. I'm not so sure why I got it. If you don't really get the knife too dirty, at least around the pivot area, I don't think there's much reason to use it, unless you want to get rid of the CRK lube for some oil.
 
Great - sounds like I will be picking up the kit.

I do on occasion in-pocket carry, and the pivot area does pick up quite a bit of pocket lint. I had the same thing happen with my Sebenza.

Thanks for the feedback all.
 
The official kit is the best. I don't think you can beat it at $14 + shipping.

I bought it because I picked up a user Umnumzaan. The action just felt a little rough. I'm glad I took it apart because I found two lubeless washers and everything looked a bit discolored. Cleaned it all off and lubed it up before putting it back together and now it's perfect.
 
I got mine new from a CR distributor - born 2 weeks ago - and there was no doubt it was lubed.

Very smooth opening.

I find that if I in-pocket carry for a week there is usually enough lint that collects in the pivot area that it slightly affects opening.
 
Since I am the person that made the aluminum/titanium tools for this task, I think I need to chime in on this subject.

First- "Best" is definitely subject to individual opinion.
If you have tried both tools, then you can make this assertion of opinion.

Second- When I designed and made these tools originally, there was no other option.

I thought I would offer these insights before anyone that bought my tool had questions on the quality or longevity.


Bill
 
I have owned both tools

Once you use the tool Bill makes you won't want to pick-up the plastic one

There is "No Comparison"
 
I have to agree with Rickster.
Bhyde's tool is great! I purchased one of his before the CRK ones came out and they are great. :thumbup::thumbup:
 
i got mine from CRK directly. there are no issues with the stock ones as far as I can see; however, the other ones could be good too.
 
I have two of Mr. Hyde's tools and they are nice pieces of work. They work as intended. And it must be said that Bill is a WONDERFUL person to deal with -- friendly, generous, patient, accommodating. I have two b/c my Umnum wouldn't break down with just the one tool, as it seemed to be over-treated with threadlock or was just simply stuck (it was factory fresh, too). After many suggestions for troubleshooting the problem from Bill, and much frustration and failure from me, he sent over another tool free of charge (from the U.S. to Canada!). But I did eventually send payment for it as a gesture of appreciation for his help and generosity.

There might be a couple benefits to using the delrin tools, however. First is that there are two tools included in the kit, one for each side. That's a plus if the knife breakdown proves to be problematic like it did for me. And second is the lower scratch factor with the delrin material. The titanium tools can (probably will, as it did in my case:() scratch the pivot surface if it slips while in use. Though this can be avoided by taking simple precautions, such as taping the pivot surface with plumbers tape and/or using care and taking it slow and easy.

One more thing. Don't take it apart unless it REALLY needs it. I will admit to taking mine apart just for the heck of it, to check it out, clean it up a bit and re-lube. When I put it back together it was clearly not as smooth as it was before, and the pivot slightly scratched as well.

But overall my vote goes for Bill's titanium tool, as it is a cool little chunk of custom-made Ti. Like anything hand or custom made, it just has more character. If you really want one and he isn't making them anymore, I will send you one of mine for the price of postage. I only need one now that I've either broken the threadlock or loosened it up.
 
grnamin said:
Bill, still waiting on the pocket/wallet version. :D
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If I thought there was a big enuff market, I would provide for this tool as it is very straight forward, not to mention cheap to make. (there might be a hint here somewhere)

I appreciate all the kind words towards my tool! I can take in account many things in the design of the tool, I opted for drill rod because of it's strength. And yes, it is overkill for this application. Plastic has it's advantages, but ultimately, it is far weaker than steel. The more recent tools that I have sent out (sorry Jason, yours was sadly the last tool of the old design that was updated a bit) I applied a decent radius to the end of the pins to minimize scratching.
Sadly, I have stopped making the tools due to the lack of demand. They filled the niche in which they were originally designed. Not that I will not make them again, I just don't have the interest that I once had. (not to mention the pursuit of my mechanical engineering degree/ with a full time job demands alot of time) Ask Bigmark408, he sent me a request along with some parts of one of his knives a few months ago and I have yet to get to it. These will be home to you by the end of the month Mark I swear!!

Jason- To make it clear, the tools that you have are 6061-T6 aluminum. The tool made from Ti belongs to BigMark408 and is 1 of 2 made, I have the other which has a defect and will not likely sell or otherwise.

Bill
 
bhyde said:
Jason- To make it clear, the tools that you have are 6061-T6 aluminum. The tool made from Ti belongs to BigMark408 and is 1 of 2 made, I have the other which has a defect and will not likely sell or otherwise.

Bill
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Thanks for clearing that up. Works just as well and I still appreciate the fact that it is made by a fellow knife lover and not solely by a computer and machine.

p.s. Did you get the envelope in the mail?
 
KarlMaldensNose said:
Thanks for clearing that up. Works just as well and I still appreciate the fact that it is made by a fellow knife lover and not solely by a computer and machine.

p.s. Did you get the envelope in the mail?
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Yes! Thank you very much! :thumbup:
 
JMO...the plastic ones SUCK.... Bills are far superior...insert them with care and i havent had any issues with scratching.
 
This thread is too long to go without pictures of the original tool. I recall seeing it, but can't seem to find it anywhere.
 
Here is a picture of mine made by Bill Hyde




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