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I'm not afraid to say: I like this knife, but not the blade shape , I think Chris wants happy costumers, if we say all, we prefer ancient shape, may be he will listen to us, the sebie is like a Porsche 911, need evolution: big pivot, glass breaker very good, (surefire made this kind of tool), but Chris made it with finest talent isn't it, please just keep classic or regular line,
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I like the new blade shape. I already have the regular Sebenza drop point and a tanto. Time to try a new approach!
 
hmm, I'm a little leery of the blade shape, partly because where I live double edge knives are illegal. Strictly speaking the new knife isn't, but it's looks like could be construed to be.

I rather see the handle and pivot changes in a regular sebenza.
 
On the one hand, it appears he has simplified the construction of the folder compared to the Sebbie, fewer holes to line up properly and a simplified pivot mechanism mean lower manufacturing costs or improved productivity.

On the other hand, it's too large a knife for me for everyday carry and I've never been a fan of double thumb studs.

that said, I may have to order one next year just to say I have it.
 
The top of the blade isnt just for looks, when you go to close it your thumb rides in the cut out closest to the piviot.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
I like the new blade shape. I already have the regular Sebenza drop point and a tanto. Time to try a new approach!
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Well spoken. Also the studs on this knife are well out of the way. Using the knife you don't even know they are there. OD said it too...choke up on the blade and you will see(feel) why this blade was designed this way!
 
When it comes to the blade shape the wave maybe not be the problem; I think it will be the double edge.
 
Chris Reeve designed the knife to be the best folder he could make for a range of tasks even beyond the Sebenza's. He did not design it to be scary but he did not design it to cower before the most hoplophobic laws around the world, either.

If some design elements of this knife are outside the range of some local laws, perhaps the problem is with those laws, not with the knife.

We cannot always dumb down our lives.
 
It's going to take my actually holding the knife in my hand before I make a firm decision on wheather to buy one or not. Right now, even with all of the great features, I can't get past the blade shape.:confused:
If I don't get this one, I may get an inlayed one.
 
Just to add, I was hoping for something like a sabre grind spear/drop point. Kind of like the XM-18's spanto but with more of a clean, classic line to it.
 
Lycosa said:
Xcel---That blade style would be Da Bom!!
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Yeah, it sure would. The Sebenzas are just so wonderfully clean in design. I really think the key to evolving CRK's folders (at least the hard-working ones) is to focus on raw, unadulterated utility.

Forget the Kool-Aid for a minute and think about what could be improved on the Sebenza: It could be a little stouter. A little easier to deploy. The chipping issue could be addressed. It could maybe be a little easier to disassemble (parts enlarged for strength would also be easier to handle). It could have a more slip-resistant gripping surface.

Basically we are talking about re-defining state-of-the-art in the working folder. There are some very, very good working folders available, so the changes are going to be relatively subtle and sober, not gimmicky and dramatic.
 
The double edge at the tip of the Um Num is subtle IMO. It looks like a swedge and the girl at the counter at Plaza Cutlery had to point it put to me before I realized it. The angle of the swedge is way more obtuse that the angle of the cutting edge. Realistically, I think that design was made to help in cleaning/skinning game animals. To appreciate this knife and all its features I think one needs to handle it. My positive experience with CRK and being able to handle this knife leave me no doubt that I will be very happy when I get mine. I'm real tempted to go see Dan at Plaza and fork over $1,600 for the prototype but I know that the ones that will be offered as production models will be improved and I also have a large left hand LE 2008 on order and a left hand Um NUm and I suspect the total to be about $1,100. I have to draw the line somewhere.:eek::cool::p
 
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