Unbalance lamination on my Fallkniven A2

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weyon

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I just received my new Fallkniven A2 today. It was an wonderful experience to hold a such a good quality blade on hands.

However, I notice that the unbalance lamination of 420J2 and VG10 on my A2.

You can see from the attached pictures, the line of 420J2 layer on both blade sides are different.

The thickness of 420J2 on Fallkniven logo side is lesser than other side.
I can see clearly from the spine that VG10 is not laminated at the middle in between 420J2 layers.
I think it would affect the blade strength. Whats your thought ?
 
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If you are not happy send it back. Flaws turn up in any brand. I am sure there will not be an issues with the replacement.
 
Thanks for your reply.

I would request RMA if that was uncommon from Fallkniven laminated knives, I had put a lot of effort to get this A2 in though.

Hope that I could hear more comments from Fallkniven owners.
 
Ive had an S1 and an H1 and both had somewhat uneven lamination lines. It never caused any problems though. Ive seen many laminated spydercos with uneven lams also. I thnk it is pretty common in san mai style blades
 
mtangent said:
They are all a little wonky. I don't see anything wrong.
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Agree; at least based on OPs photos, the lamination line doesn't deviate too much. On my 2 Fallknivens the lamination is not perfectly symmetric.
Also the ones I handled in a store were similar so I don't think this is an issue.
 
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How is it looking down on the spine? Just curious. Shouldn't be an issue. Pretty sure all Fallkniven knives are all convex ground by hand so not ever gonna be perfect. Enjoy your new toy/tool. I love Fallkniven knives.
 
I've NEVER seen a knife with a laminated blade where the lines demarking the two layers of steel was anywhere NEAR to being 'perfect'. This is a knife blade, not a computer CPU.

If it bothers you so much, get an RMA, and send the knife back. But I would say that your chances of getting another laminated blade with 'perfect' lines demarking the two layers of steel to be so close to zero, that it is the same as zero.

If I was in your shoes, I would find a knife made with steel that is NOT laminated, thus eliminating even the possibility of your being disappointed by less than 'perfect' lines where the layers of steel are joined.
 
Your post made me dig out my only Fällkniven ! Well, compared to my Kolt, the lamination line on your A2 looks fine ! While I understand your concern, don't forget that 420J2, while a soft steel, still is steel. It's not butter laminated over diamond... The soft steel laminated over hard steel has also made quite a reputation for the Mora Classic of which I own two (N°1 and N°2). Fantastic knives, but here again, the lamination line is far from perfect (although it's a very straight blade design). They have been used for years and that has never caused any issues. Heck, the cutting edge is still very, very far from the soft steel. Not a problem in my opinion.
 
weyon said:
Thanks for your reply.

I would request RMA if that was uncommon from Fallkniven laminated knives, I had put a lot of effort to get this A2 in though.

Hope that I could hear more comments from Fallkniven owners.
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That specific issue you are noticing is not brand specific, it's foundry specific. There are several knife companies that get their steel from the same place and that is a common theme across the board. As Cobalt, mtangent, and Riz suggest, they are all sort of that way to some extent of the other. It will more than likely fall within the normal limits according to QC, if you exchange you will probably get the same or "worse".
 
Really do not see any problem there, tiny little off centering of the VG-10

I just checked my A1 and it is a horrible at chopping compared to my magnum tanto
 
No need to mention other brands (not that uneven laminated lines are a problem), but Ive seen far more uneven lines on other knives from other brands.

Its part of the charm. I like it and its no problem.

Stop worrying and use the snot out of your new knife.
 
Just looked at my S1 and the lamination is a bit uneven. As other have mentioned, this is typical. Heck, yours looks better than mine.
 
The lines will only be even is the blade is ground perfectly and I've never encountered a perfectly ground blade so....

If all knives had lamination lines and could see how your knives are actually ground it would probably give some and aneurysm.
 
RevDevil said:
That specific issue you are noticing is not brand specific, it's foundry specific. There are several knife companies that get their steel from the same place and that is a common theme across the board. As Cobalt, mtangent, and Riz suggest, they are all sort of that way to some extent of the other. It will more than likely fall within the normal limits according to QC, if you exchange you will probably get the same or "worse".
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Not the foundry. It all happens when the blade is being ground.
 
Thanks guys. I have no worry to use my A2 now after I heard the comments from you all. I am going to place another order for Fallkniven F1 Pro.

Since that was my first time to own a laminated blade, I had thought the lamination should be "perfect" based on current technology.

I contacted Eric and below is the reply from him. Hope it could help any new Fallkniven owner as me before.

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Dear Sir,

in general, we accept variations from the all perfect symmetric ground solution as long as the edge still is formed by the powder, cobalt or VG10 steel. Largely asymmetric ground blades are rejected.

A problem in using laminate blades is that the lamination lines become visible only when the blade gets polished which is the final step in the production. Should we reject blades which aren’t 100 % perfect with regards to a symmetric grinding, very few blades would be accepted and the knives left would become so expensive that almost no one would consider to buy them.

We make several blades as laminates and the good reason is that such blades become much stronger and cause less problems for the customer. The negative matter is that the lamination lines seldom are all symmetric but, as a manufacturer we have accepted that as a cosmetic detail with no negative function.

Your A2 seems to have very fine lines, I don´t think we have a better knife in stock.


Sincerely

Eric Hjortberger


Fällkniven AB - Est. 1984
www.fallkniven.com
info@fallkniven.se
Phone: +46 (0) 921 544 22
Fax: +46 (0) 921 544 33
Granatvägen 8
S-961 43 Boden
Sweden
VAT # SE556494-8684-01
 
Jason B. said:
Not the foundry. It all happens when the blade is being ground.
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I have seen many lamination lines on Fällkniven knives and that includes the tang wich is not ground.
The lam. lines can be quite uneven also on the tangs, so I believe it's a built in thing from Takefu Special Steels.

This doesn't exclude uneven grinds and FK's often looks like the OP's knife at the left side of the tip.
It can be fixed with a DC4 stone.


Regards
Mikael
 
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