Uncle Henry 897 - Next Generation

Richard is one of the ebay sellers of the Schtaylors. He does say "MADE IN CHINA" in 3/8" tall bold letters in his listing. Pity the folks who jump at the flag box without reading though.

By the way, the new 153UH Golden Spikes have red spacers instead of black. The staglon scales of that 897UH seem a bit different than my real ones too. Both pattern of "jigging" and coloration, besides the obvious-when-new blade etch. Anyone seen the tangstamp? Perhaps we might post "spotter details" here to help tell the genuine article from the erzatz?

Codger
 
Be careful how you sell as well. Most of my Schrades on ebay I make a real effort to explain they are the real things. I didn't do so in one current auction, and I've had two questions wondering if it's a Made in USA item.

We're gonna see the fine print get finer, and pretty soon, once some ebay sellers (of china-taylor knives) see that the 'First Production Run' blade etching isn't doing much for sales, they will simply peddle these off as 'Schrades'. As much as we detest the idea, fact is fact, like it or not, that would not be breaking any law. Any of you noticed this happening yet?

As Ted is saying in so many words, 'buyer beware'.

Phil
 
...with a "buy it now" price about the same as when they were made in NY.

They have new "old timers," with stainless blades of course because they don't give a crap.
 
Well, here is a box for you to hurl in. I don't know what they were thinking, but it must have been the brainchild of some marketing consultant. Check it out. Especially the tangstamp and etch.
Ebay #6535571298

Codger
 
Here is finally a seller showing closeup views of the etch and tang stamps of the Chinese 153's. The spacers, at least on this first run, are indeed red, not traditional UH black. The etch on blade left says "Schrade China, First Production Run", and the stamp is 153UH. The etch on blade right says "SCHRADE over Super Sharp", the stamp, Uncle Henry signature over SCHRADE. Ebay #6536883314

Codger
 
Codger_64 said:
Here is finally a seller showing closeup views of the etch and tang stamps of the Chinese 153's. The spacers, at least on this first run, are indeed red, not traditional UH black. The etch on blade left says "Schrade China, First Production Run", and the stamp is 153UH. The etch on blade right says "SCHRADE over Super Sharp", the stamp, Uncle Henry signature over SCHRADE. Ebay #6536883314

Codger
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Some dillweed paid $41.50???
 
Arrrgh. I'm not even that set against Chinese or asian-made knives (I have a steel warrior that is quite nice and dirt cheep). And I've known intellectually that this would happen since this past summer.

But seeing it . . . . . . :barf::barf::barf::barf:
 
I have the exact same style Badger (without tin) that I purchased from Sears for 5.99. It is made in China and a very poor knife. I agree with Codger that it must be a marketing guru because no self respecting knife user would market something like that. The $51 the ebay user paid for this thing could have went for the purchase of a real knife. I hope these ebayers are not purchasing these for an investment, if they are they are in for a real surprise.
Who would pay the 41.50 +ship for a Chinese UH? Don't they know Wallyworld sells Chinese fixed blade Bucks for $15? Oh, I forgot, 1st production run......collectable....
I.......must......quit......laughing........
If these ebayers have that much spare money maybe they can send some my way.
 
Mark,
I have seen Chinese knives that are superior to many of the last production Schrades.
The thing that burns me up is the marketing. If it is made in China/Taiwan then they should CLEARLY mark it so. Taylor, Schrade (at the end), and Buck are examples of how not to market, at least ethically. When I purchased the Badger it looked identical to Schrade packaging except in fine print on the back it had "made in China". Buck needs a way to distinguish between their imported and US made stuff. Companies like Spyderco and Benchmade are doing it right by making it easy for the consumer to know where it came from.
 
philw said:
Mark,
I have seen Chinese knives that are superior to many of the last production Schrades.
The thing that burns me up is the marketing. If it is made in China/Taiwan then they should CLEARLY mark it so.
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I agree that the biggest issue is deception. Way too many (ie, more than zero) American flags on boxes for products made in China and elsewhere.

I also agree that there are some pretty good Chinese knives out there. The Chinese Buck folders in Walmart are not bad at all, though not fabulous. They are better blades than Case makes, that's for sure. Those Chinese Winchesters are junk though, as are a lot of others.

But quality is not the real problem with the People's Republic of China. They are not our economic or military friends at all. Threatening to attack Taiwan for not voluntarily joining a communist government is a good reason to not do business with them. Taking advantage of the exchange rate with a country that uses pegged currency exchange is also highly questionable.
 
I hate when American companies make stuff in China that the used to make in the USA. I know it's a fact of life, but I don't have to like it. :grumpy:

I do hope these are at least good quality, so Schrade's name isn't totally ruined. Decent knives can come out of China, Kershaw's Vapor is an excellent example. Just don't seem right importing slipjoints from there...
 
Sad thing is, at least it looks like they are making a better variety of patterns, things guys here were trying to get Schrade to do since I've been posting here. :confused:
 
steve1701d said:
Sad thing is, at least it looks like they are making a better variety of patterns, things guys here were trying to get Schrade to do since I've been posting here. :confused:
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Yeah, that part is kind of pathetic. I think I should just avoid the whole issue and move on to other things. :(
 
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