Unidentified Schrade 165/1650

[Old John]

Hello everyone,
I'm a newbie here. Today I acquired a beautiful Schrade sheath knife. It is modeled like the 165 and 1650 but with several differences. It is brand new, never used and never sharpened. Its condition is as it would have been in the box in the store except that there is no box. The peculiarities are as follows:
There is no shield on the grip.
The grips are of resin impregnated laminated wood.
The grips are not rounded in the usual manner.
The steel appears to be stainless and flawless and sharp.
The only markings on the blade are as follows:
SCHRADE +
U.S.A. Ltd
I don't know if this is a prototype or if there was actually a production run of this. I have a number of Schrades and have never encountered this. I have a hard time finding info about it on the net. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

 

[Hickory n steel]

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[Old John]

Hickory, pardon me; but what image am I supposed to post. And since I'm unfamiliar with this sort of thing I will need some help. I don't use Facebook or Twitter et.al. This is completely new to me.

 

[panoz77]

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[Old John]

I know I went about this wrong being as it was the first time; but I will get better at it as time goes by. You may notice the edge of the sheath that it has been trued using a belt grinder thus making it fuzzy instead of smooth. Other than that it is a nice sheath. I'm thinking this package may have been either a prototype or possibly a construction made from parts scavenged when the shop closed in 2004. Even so, It is a beautiful blade.

 

[Frotier76]

Hello everyone,
I'm a newbie here. Today I acquired a beautiful Schrade sheath knife. It is modeled like the 165 and 1650 but with several differences. It is brand new, never used and never sharpened. Its condition is as it would have been in the box in the store except that there is no box. The peculiarities are as follows:
There is no shield on the grip.
The grips are of resin impregnated laminated wood.
The grips are not rounded in the usual manner.
The steel appears to be stainless and flawless and sharp.
The only markings on the blade are as follows:
SCHRADE +
U.S.A. Ltd
I don't know if this is a prototype or if there was actually a production run of this. I have a number of Schrades and have never encountered this. I have a hard time finding info about it on the net. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

Old John,
Shortly put your knife is an Uncle Henry 165UH Prospector which was a stainless steel(440A or 420HC) twin of the Old Timer 165OT (which was in 1095 Carbon Tool Steel).The LTD. stamping it was a 'limited edition' meaning Schrade probably stamped these for a limited edition series they were doing within Schrade Cutlery or for another company.

The handles originally were molded from delrin with that deer stag look that the Uncle Henry Series had.The reason they're in wood was because of legality issues when Taylor Cutlery bought the rights to Schrade USA.The Ellenville,NY factory wasn't allowed to use any shield emblems and delrin scales of the Old Timer and Uncle Henry name.The blades were edged at heat-treated at Schrade USA and some of these were assembled already but were sold off in kits(blade,rivets,wood scales,and leather sheath) to companies buying up Schrade's remaining inventory when the factory closed.SMKW bought a lot of these and had the scales riveted on in China.

Quite a few remaining stock of leftover original blades from Schrade USA were sold off in these wood scale format from limited editions and some than went to Schrade+(stainless steel) when the company stopped using 1095 in the last few years.Such models are...

152 Sharpfinger
160OT Mountain Lion
PH1 and PH2 Pro Hunter models
165UH Prospector

They weren't perceived as collectibles but more as users when they started selling $35-$48 on Ebay about 7 years ago.But they have became rare due to people preferring these over the China models made today.

 

[Old John]

Frotier76
Many thanks for the information. I figured it was a late model but didn't know anything else. I have several of this configuration made in U.S.A. but with different scales. I have always liked this shape. It is a good usable all-around design. I also have similar from the 70s and gave a couple to family. I appreciate your response.
Old John