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Unprepared hikers rescued in BC

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another rescue, happy ending, but once again people went out UNPREPARED:

http://www.theprovince.com/news/Hikers+rescued+after+spending+night+ledge+RCMP/1990205/story.html

QOUTE: "“The problem is some people really don’t respect the ruggedness of the terrain and the difficulty of the hikes,” said Seki. He said about 16 members of Coquitlam Search and Rescue were joined by about five members of North Shore Search and Rescue, as well as the chopper from Talon Helicopters of Richmond."

21 SARtechs involved, a pilot from a Civvie helicopter firm, and RCMP. Lots of manhours/personnel
 
On a side note to the large numbers of rescues in BC, It has been observed that a large number of European hikers are getting lost in our woods over the years. Further research into this (questioning the rescued) reveals that they are simply not used to our terrain, they are used to rolling open forests that are walkable anywhere. Whereas our terrain is WET, dense thick undergrowth, extremely steep and rugged terrain, dense impenetrable forest and a million+ creeks, rivers, ravines and valleys.
 
That would make alot of sense. though these were both "lower mainland residents".
I also keep coming across lost Australians. I suspect they are disoriented by being upside down. Research continues.
 
Unfortunately this is going to be more and moe common, with more people coming into canada, all sorts are allowed into wilderness areas. You know, they should make it manditory to have SOME type of training, people have way to much money, and way too much attitude today, it seems like everyone thinks they can do everything.
 
i've been in that area many times and have gone off trail there many times. it is definetly rugged terrain even for experienced hikers.

the grades are extremely steep and there are many areas where the soil and rocks are loose enough for you to slip and slide down and kill/injure yourself.


i was out in lynn canyon a month ago when 2 european (eastern european i believe) and middle aged people and their son were lost but somehow had made it to the third debris chute.

seeing as how i was the only person around i decided to ask them if they needed any help. they told me they needed directions to lynn lake. the hike up to lynn lake is extremely rugged requiring water crossings as well as navigation of sparcely marked trails. they had no equipment with them besides a couple bottles of water and some food. i told them its better that they turn back now as the terrain past the third debris chute is rugged, not well marked, and dangerous as you have to cross washouts. they were equiped with shorts, t-shirts and a pair of nikes :).

they decided not to take my warnining and proceeded to head off into the woods again. theres nothing i could do but watch them walk off towards the falls. seriously, some people just dont like locals telling them they shouldnt go somewhere because they're unprepared. perfect candidates for the darwin award if you ask me.


as for those people lost up in eagle ridge? they're really lucky that they received cellphone reception but obviously should not have headed up into the woods without proper preparation.


i wish this sign which is at the beginning of the headwaters was at every park in bc

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The wilderness areas in some Canadian provinces are bigger than the countries some of these people come from.
 
I like that picture, saved and stowed away for future reference :D

I'm glad they had a happy ending, but good lord, these people need to make sure they have some common sense along with a bit of gear before venturing off trail.

And it's a good thing they hadn't watched any Man vs. Wild episodes or they would have eaten the dog on the first night for fear of starvation :eek:
 
mtnfolk mike said:
wow...those rescues sure do happen a lot in BC...:eek: i think people that are heading into such remote and dense backcountry, sould definitely have manditory gear on their persons at all times... anything can happen and will...
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How true is that? I wonder how many lives, injuries, man hours and tax dollars could be saved if there were some mandatory requirements.

When I hiked the upper trails in Yosemite, the camp guides and workers visually checked out our gear before letting us proceed. I thought that was pretty smart or them.

Robert
 
yea, but then you get a nanny state mentality, and the result is hikers that go super minimal and have the survival skills, get shut out of those hiking areas because "they dont have the gear".

Only time a ranger is going to be checking my pack out is if i let them, and the answer to that is a pleasant "mind yer own beeswax ranger!".
 
thats kinda the thing too, and an old saying here, no matter the gear, you NEED the brains to back it up.

Just because these guys/gals get out in the boonies and have a $4000 survival kit putting shame to anything found on here isn't going to make them come out alive if the dont know how to use it.

I still think some type of mandatory training should be provided, the money that would be spent on these search's could be saved to pay for trainer's.
 
Fonly said:
thats kinda the thing too, and an old saying here, no matter the gear, you NEED the brains to back it up.

Just because these guys/gals get out in the boonies and have a $4000 survival kit putting shame to anything found on here isn't going to make them come out alive if the dont know how to use it.

I still think some type of mandatory training should be provided, the money that would be spent on these search's could be saved to pay for trainer's.
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Having water a whistle, extra clothing does not require a brain or training to use, it requires a brain to take in the first place;).

Skam
 
At least they had a cell phone. The story would read differently if they hadn't.
 
skammer said:
Having water a whistle, extra clothing does not require a brain or training to use, it requires a brain to take in the first place;).

Skam
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Same thing as far as Im concerned, know what I mean.

If they would just think about most things they would not need alot of any kit, but......:rolleyes:
 
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