Unusual Knife--??? pics

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John Yeackley

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Hey guys,

I designed this knife in 97'. I've made several but have a few questions I'd like to get your opinions on.

1. Have you ever seen a twin like this??
2. What use would it have besides sitting on a desk and opening the mail.
3. This is the most important- would it be considered a concealed weapon.

When I made the first one I didn't consider anything but to see if I could do it.
Sorry for the poor quality of pics, but you get the idea-- 2 knives that fit together as one. The blades fit into the handle of the other, held together by friction. The inside of the handles are lined with velvet to protect from scratching the blades,and are held together fairly secure.

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John

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That's really cool! I think the BEST place for it would be on the desk! What a great little set. It has the potential for being a concealed carry, death-monger knife, too, I suppose, but the way you have it presented makes it a great little deak accessory that is absolutely gorgeous!

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I love it! I've seen double knives on the same principle before, but that one is beautiful.

Whether it would be considered a concealed weapon depends on a lot of things ... how the person carrying it is dressed ... what part of the world he's in (laws vary from place to place around the world, believe it or not) ... as far as I know there are no laws specifically banning double knives like that anywhere.

-Cougar :{)
 
Congratulations!
A most beautifull pair.

But: of course it is a deadly weapon, according to our (new) laws, even a toothpick is dangerous and carrying a felony, if you foresee to use it in "defense".
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It's very creative. It looks like a beautiful little modern sculpture. I never would have quessed it was a knife.
 
Hey neato!

Why not make the one of them a fork, then you can say it's your camp cutlery set when you get caught carrying it on the street. Ya, that might actually work...one for slashing movements, the other for stabbing. Whadda ya think?

Heck, you could easily poke someones eye out with a fork...but then they (who is "they" exactly) might try to make you get a permit to carry a fork too!
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Mental note: steal this idea.
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Actually, would you mind if I play with this idea? It might make for a good gift idea for quite a few friends of mine.

Darren


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I've seen these on your site John, what a piece of work. As far as the concealed issue, I am unclear on that as well. It would seem that any knife carried without being obvious would be concealed in Texas, don't know about anywhere else. Myself I would have a hard time using these knives for any chore that might take away from the beauty of the piece as a whole. Probably letters and maybe an occasional apple...
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Brandon

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Now that is slick, I've not come across a set of knives that fitted together in this manner.

Again, your work looks to be very comfortable in the realm of the handles for the grip, what steel did you use for the blades? and are they sharpened at this time? Just wondered if they were, would that hinder the sheathing action by cutting into the `sheath' ?

Too Cool John.
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WOW

Thanks guys for all the responses, and for the compliments. I was told once they would make great fighting knives. I'm really glad no one brought that up. I really shy away from "tactical" knives. Not that I have anything against them, Its just not my style (if I have a style yet). The only tactical knives I make are wooden knives for kids. The tactics being to train up our kids in the way they should go.

Darren-- you go boy, e-mail me if you have any ??? A fork huh

Brandon-- I was thinking I should make them a bit more usuable. Maybe 1 thats a skinner and 1 thats a camp knife. Material should look a bit more user friendly also. Thanks for your compliment.

Gary-- The blades are ats34, they are sharpened. Let me know if you come up with a cool sheath. I can also send one just like it out of wood for a template. Thanks

John
 
Dude, that looks like a toilet paper dispenser or something! Never would have guessed it was a knife
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. Its sweet though! Not sure how the law works on concealed weapons, but would writing "KNIFE" in red permanent marker on the sides, make it become "obvious" that it was a knife, and therefore not concealed?

-Chang the Asian Janitorial Apparatus

I'm an Asian Janitorial Apparatus, thats why "toilet paper dispenser" was the first thing I thought of.
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Chang, now thats an interesting note, when I first viewed them the thing that came into my mind was something from Batman's Utility Belt, due to the Bat like shape when they are put together. Pretty cool looking none the less!

G2
 
Of Course--

It's Batmans t.p. dispenser

Thats hillarious because the first thing out of my 10 yr old sons mouth was "what a cool bat-knife" , then he went into the whole Holy batknife Batman thing. They are known as batknives around my house. Thanks for the memory.

I'm sitting here in my office looking at the first one I made. It looks like it can almost fly. I've changed the design a little since then. Robin said it was a little uncomfortable.

John

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[This message has been edited by John Yeackley (edited 03-28-2000).]
 
ALRIGHT, POST # 100
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I do actually have something to say, I wanted to hit post #100 without any "cheap shots". I'm sorry to tell you this, but I have seen knives produced in such a manner. However, I think they were mostly cheapies. My main concern for such knives is the strength between the handle and knife. In other models I've seen (don't ask me to be specific, it's been years) the knife would come loose from the handle when attempting any kind of twisting motion. Yeah, yeah, I know knives aren't supposed to be handled certain ways, but I would expect any custom to be able to hold up as well as any common butterknife.
I don't know if you've field tested them yet, but I would suggest that you use epoxy or screws to attach each knife to it's handle, and make sure you use a full tang on each piece. this is just my opinion, however. But from what I've seen this knife design has the inherent flaw of blade coming loose from the handle. So, PROVE ME WRONG!!!
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. best of luck to you.

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John,

I checked the laws in colorado and carrying a concealed weapon of any blade length is illegal. This knife would definately qualify as "concealed". Even if the knife is not "concealed" on your person, it itsef is "concealed" as there is no way to tell that it is a knife until it is drawn. some states allow concealed carry. Some states allow you to conceal only up to a certain length. Unfortunately, from what I understand Colorado is not one of them. Take care.

Beautiful work by the way.

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Great minds think alike....
I have a fork and knife set that fits together like that. It was given to me many years ago by a friend of my fathers. I have never seen another set.
I have often thought about making a set but never seem to get around to it.
You did an excellent job!

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EdRozen-- You Make a very good point. The tangs are as full as possible with hidden pins and epoxy and some other cuts in the tang to help hold it in place. However it is still a concern of mine. Chris from toptexknives.com and I were talking and he had a very good idea about a ss spacer between the blades to help with this problem. I'm working on that. Thanks for your help, Very much appreciated. I have put the twist to it but I can't bring myself to see how much it takes to make it give up. I guess I need to do that.

John



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please call me Ed!!. I am anxious to find out how your experiments turn out. I would recommend exhaustive testing in blade strength. It sounds like you're certainly on the right track. After all, we know what G.I. Joe says "knowing is 1/2 the battle"
Let me add, that I can certainly understand that you wouldn't want to test them, after all that work. But from what I've noticed manufacters that test their knives are generally given more credibility. SO: when you do it, why not get out a video camera? You could send out videos to anyone interested, or post pics on your site.

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John, there is a blade length limitation in Colorado's concealed carry law. For that statute a knife is a concealed weapon if it has a blade over 3 1/2 inches. If it has a blade under 3 1/2" it doesn't meet the definition of a knife for that statute and can be carried concealed.
Tonk
 
Interesting concept, I think it would be cool to add contrasting wood at the joint to enhance and hide the joint at the same time.

Jake
 
Just in case you wanted it.

Colorado - Criminal Code Section 18-12-101. Definitions...
(e) "Gravity knife" means any knife that has a blade released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force, that when released is locked into place by means of a button, spring, lever, or other device... (f) "Knife" means any dagger, dirk, knife, or stiletto with a blade over 3-1/2 inches in length, or any other dangerous instrument capable of inflicting cutting, stabbing, or tearing
wounds, but does not include a hunting or fishing knife carried for sports use. The issue that a knife is a hunting or fishing knife must be raised as an affirmative defense. (j) "Switchblade knife" means any knife, the blade of which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in its handle... (a.3) "Ballistic knife" means any knife that has a blade which is forcefully projected from the handle by means of a spring-loaded device or explosive charge.
- 18-12-102. Possessing a dangerous or illegal weapon... (1) As used in this section the term "illegal weapon" [includes]... gravity knife, or switchblade knife... {or ballistic knife}. (3) A person who knowingly possesses a dangerous weapon commits a class 5 felony.
- 18-12-105. Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon -
unlawful possession of weapons. (1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if he knowingly and unlawfully:
(a) Carries a knife concealed on or about his person... (2)... affirmative defense... (a) A person in his own
dwelling or place of business... (b) A person in a private automobile... (c) [written permit] (d) A peace officer...
Colorado Case Law:
"The definition of 'knife' in subsection (1)(f) of this section is sufficiently specific to give fair warning of the proscribed conduct and is therefore constitutional..." (1992) http://www.knife-expert.com

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