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Urban B.O.B.

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Don't know if this has been brought up before but, I've noticed a lot of BOBs and their contents are geared to getting out of the city and into the woods. What if you can't get out and are cut off from going home to your supplies? I know most of the gear would be the same but what would you pack for an urban scenario ?
 
I've thought a bit about this in the context of an earthquake in LA. The most common scenario I imagine is having to walk 10-30 miles to get home if freeways are shutdown/packed. So you need stuff that you might already have on you in the woods, but wouldn't necessarily in the city.

Comfy, sturdy sneakers. Hat. Knife. Pepper spray. Flashlight. Water. Daypack. Cliff Bars. Clothes to dress down in if you usually wear office clothes. Map if you don't know area well. Prybar/boltcutters would be nice but heavy, maybe just a really big screwdriver. What else?
 
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Urban kits are a good bit area specific. What kind of area are you in? What are the threats around you?
 
Comfy, sturdy sneakers. Hat. Knife. Pepper spray. Flashlight. Water. Daypack. Cliff Bars. Clothes to dress down in if you usually wear office clothes. Map if you don't know area well. Prybar/boltcutters would be nice but heavy, maybe just a really big screwdriver. What else?


This is good I would also add a gun if you can keep it in your house. If you keep it in your car get a concealed carry license if you can.
 
Weapons and fuel

A power bar and a bottle of gatorade

Yep, and depending upon your climate at least one layer of merino wool, watch cap, gaitor, and an uncoated stainless steel bottle in which to boil water.

As nutty as you may think it, if you work more than 30 miles from home, have a family and therefore MUST get home, a bike in your vehicle trunk isn't a bad idea. You can remove the front tire to make it fit if necessary.

My .02
 
All the basics of any BOB should be in there, but replacing items specifically needed for wilderness survival with ones ideal for urban survival.

+1 on the entry tool, I have my FUBAR (small version) next to my bag. But someone should also consider bolt cutters.

There is a lot of obvious things (extra money, maps, locations of food/water/ammo/gas, ect) that should be considered.

Then there is the question of electronics. Do you take a computer of some sorts? I have a mini pc that I take with me, in all but the most dire situations the internet should be up and running and having access to it (lots of WiFi in urban areas) can give you valuable information. So perhaps remembering your iPhone is a good idea ;)
 
for me and where i live:

- Bear spray (not for bears, for humans) x 2
- fixed blade
- folder
- powerbars
- gatorade
- water pur tabs
- canteen or camelback
- change of socks/briefs
- change of shirt/pants
- heavy boots (will be already wearing)
- maps, gps, compass
- flashlight (jetbeam M1x
- spare batts + charger
- dust masj
- leather gloves
- bandanna
- gum
- toiletry kit
- breacher bar, wire cutters,pliers, etc
- unlicensed firearm and ammunition





etc
 
Safety gear: Dust mask or N95 w bandana, gloves, goggles, 50' 550 cordage, first aid kit, boots, extra socks, hat, Coveralls, jacket.

Water: 2qt. Canteen, pint sized SS cup, 10' surgical tubing, filter, 2x gallon sized HD freezer ziploc bags, 2x quart sized HD freezer ziploc bags, Katadyn MP-1 purification tabs.

Protection: Depends on your AO, skills and laws. Have a cane or walking stick with you.

Navigation: Maps, GPS/compass, flashlight w/batts, headlight w/batts.

Personal Survival Kit: I like the AM Pocket Survival Pack. has pretty much everything you need and it fits into a pocket.

Food: ability to make snars, deadfalls, fish and snag birds and other small game. A couple days worth of dehydrated foods and seasonings, stove/fuel, ability to measure out 8oz water for rehydrating/cooking food.

Tools: Small fixed blade if lawful, if not, a Vic SAK, added to a multi-tool of some kind should get you through most needs.
 
I agree with most of what Boxant said, except the electronics/internet part. I think the airwaves will be overwhelmed and very little info will be readily available.
 
I think any urban crisis is something to first avoid and secondly to get out immediately. I would equate to trying to hunker down in a forest fire…you’ll eventually get burned. If you don’t currently have a job and live in the immediate area, you’ll quickly become a refugee, target and eventually a victim. I won’t address the need for self-defense, I think most people concerned about a situation such as this know that self-defense is an essential…not all urban crisis bring people together in harmony…some of the worst animals on two feet quickly surface to take advantage of others. In fact, these are less than animals and I wouldn’t denigrate true wild beasts with the likes of these types of humans.

With that said, I think you need to be prepared to get out of the urban area immediately; and that means you have a plan, route, destination. Even if you have a vehicle, I would highly recommend a good mountain bike as a back up and better mode of transportation given the likelihood of heavy traffic jams and congested roads. You need to be as self sufficient and mobile as possible. If in an unknown city (visiting, business trip, etc.), make sure you have good detailed maps and even topographical maps (especially necessary in flood-prone areas).

I would have enough food and water for 72-96 hours…your goal (and plan) should be to get out. Outside of the typical mugger threat, cities are dangerous due to the high populations and close-density. Fires, earthquakes, pending blizzards or hurricanes, terrorist attacks (including bio/chemical), riots/gang eruptions, rapid viral outbreaks (okay…more zombie fears, but still potential for high-communicable diseases); all are potential hazards that you want to quickly evacuate from.

Here’s a older kit I had put together a few years ago:

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Some considerations that I think are pretty important outside of a rural crisis…
A good ballistic eyewear to protect the eyes,
A good bicycle helmet to protect from falling debris,
A good pair of gloves to remove rubble and navigate through areas with jagged metal/broken glass
Wire/bolt cutter, hacksaw and pry bar
Smoke/dust mask
A small amount of climbing rope with anchor devices and appropriate training
Binoculars can be used effectively to avoid bad areas
A small emergency radio and even a portable police scanner could help to avoid bad areas
Maps and a compass are still critical
Good flashlights and extra batteries…I particularly like the hands-free headlamps
Cash is a great asset in an urban environment and a few hundred in small bills could make a big difference

The standard stuff still applies: appropriate clothing, first aid, water purification/method to carry, etc.
ETA: I to have the FUBAR and it would be a great tool for getting through some tough situations...

ROCK6
 
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I agree with most of what Boxant said, except the electronics/internet part. I think the airwaves will be overwhelmed and very little info will be readily available.

That's very true for full-dupex communications, but for texting, it's much more reliable even if it takes several minutes to get a message through. Even with a massive power outage, the cell towers have backup power for a limited time. Their saturation will be massive, but small text messages have the best probability of getting through. I wouldn't rely too much on Wifi but wireless systems are pretty robust.

ROCK6
 
Regarding the info and communications portion of this thread, get your HAM radio license if you want the most up to date info in your immediate area in any emergency.

Simplex communications (radio to radio), require no repeater tower and the local HAM's will be all over the airwaves giving critical info. If repeaters are not down, even better. ARRL has a slogan....."when all else fails".

It has never been easier to get your Technician Class license and some of the new HT's (Handheld Transmitters) are super wide multi-banded, waterproof, shockproof, etc. Multi-banded, for those who don't know, means you can monitor nearly all public service (unless they are on trunking systems), broadcast radio, etcetera (at the same time)AND communicate in the HAM bands, all with the same unit. One of the new higher end HT's (Yaesu VX-8) http://www.yaesu.com/indexVS.cfm?cm...21AAA39980149EA8C6&DivisionID=65&isArchived=0 has a GPS option. You could probably store all your possible emergency evacuation routes in the unit, immediately switching to the next best route if one becomes unsafe or unstable.

If you want to know what is going on in real time, become a HAM!

One more thing. You do not have to be a HAM to take advantage of the "real time" data feeds on local emergency HAM nets. A small battery operated scanner, some research and programming of the local repeaters and popular simplex freq's therein, would give you FAR more info than any public broadcast.
 
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For a kit bag, I would probably avoid anything tactical or para-military looking; it seems like that could attract unwanted attention. I'd go for a decent quality but ordinary looking bag or pack, or wrap a trash bag around it to make it look less desireable (or threatening).

I work in a city that is a whopping 70 miles from my rural home:eek:. If I had to strike out by foot or even bicycle for some reason, it would take several days. Although I have some essentials in a box in my trunk, I really feel like I should put together a true kit that would see me home.
 
I don't think of my BOB at any of the 5 levels (from PSK to full homestead) as non urban in any way. I include a reasonable set of tools, for example. I've never lived in NYC, but every urban area I have lived in has had a fair amount of hidden wilds, and I'd rather hammock myself way up in a tree than cardboard box myself in an alley.

The main things I see you running into in urban environments that are significantly different are : population, barriers, and "technology" - I am mostly reliant on knowledge and a suite of tools for technology and barriers.

Population- you can go tank mode or stealth mode. I really don't pack extremely heavy for these scenarios, the best tool is skill at avoiding populations that could form a threat.
 
One item I would switch-up would be wire-cutters in place of bolt cutters.
Yes, bolt cutters are very usefull, but not "handy". Too damned heavy IMHO,and my primary scource of transpo being a mountain bike, it is another bit of unwanted impedimenta. Wire cutters allow me to cut through chain link fences, thus giving me more places to go or escape from/to, enhancing my mobility.
 
One item I would switch-up would be wire-cutters in place of bolt cutters.
Yes, bolt cutters are very usefull, but not "handy". Too damned heavy IMHO,and my primary scource of transpo being a mountain bike, it is another bit of unwanted impedimenta. Wire cutters allow me to cut through chain link fences, thus giving me more places to go or escape from/to, enhancing my mobility.

I carry fencing and linesman pliers, depending on the kit. (minimal, it's a LM crunch)- I find that dedicated wire cutters are too single purpose. Fencing pliers are the best all around single tool, though. Linesman are great for lighter weight, especially if you have another hammer or heavy gauge cutter
 
The main thing that I can think of is a handgun. I view this as necessary in the woods as well but especially in a disaster situation in the city. A rifle would be better and if you can throw one in the trunk or behind the seat of your truck, that would be ideal.

My biggest fear of a disaster in a city is other people so I feel that a means of protection should be at the top of the list.
 
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