Urban Vs. Wilderness

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OK folks, if you were going to put together a small camera case size kit for urban survival instead of wilderness, what would you put in it?

Thanks!
 
A few suggestions:

-Prybar (although the "urban fixed blade" might be a bit too big for the camera case)

-razor blades

-small sewing kit

-first aid kit

-pistol of some sort

-multitool
 
cell phone

LED light

Multi tool

personal medications

small first aid kit

length of cordage

disposable lighter

55gal. trash bag

phone card

several dollars in coin

some paper cash

Space pen and write in rain paper

maybe some water purification tablets and a container of some kind (condom, large zip lock bag, etc) to carry water in. a dust mask or surgical mask of some kind.
 
1911A1 .45Auto with 2 extra mags filled with Federal Hydroshocks.

ballistic nylon holster.

Spyderco Clipit

Hypo ShureFire light.
 
In addition to many things already mentioned, I would suggest the following:
compass, whistle, safety pins, superglue, poncho, dustmask, visine, earplugs, eye protection, tweezers,
 
What is it you are preparing for? The fact that you are already in an urban enviornment means that 90% of your basic survival needs for shelter, water, and food are already met to some degree. At least such things are easily found.

Your kit needs to provide the things that your enviornment is least likey to supply. Review your surroundings without the aid of utilites, fire, police, and medical first responders. That should give you an idea. Mac
 
ooops, my bad I should have specified that the camera bag is a small 6X4X4 type, not a big professional bag. This is a bare bone "micro" kit.
 
The urban kit is geared more to some sort of natural disaster, IMHO. Seems that gloves, heavy footwear are necessary there to navigate the downed buildings, debris fields and such. That's the report from my neighbors who went through hurricane Andrew in Florida some years back. Heavy work gloves were very necessary, quickly consumed and impossible to find.

Put some gloves in there.

Phil
 
Longbow 50's kit seems to do it for me.Let me just say this I work for a fire dept. in NY (not NYC) it seems my group is always working when we have a blackout,ice storm.windstorm,blizzard.I'm also on our highrise team,which means I have training in how highrises are built and how to get in and get out.


So let me say this like everything else,you brain is your #1 tool!If you work in a highrise or any large building,learn how the building works.6 people just died in a highrise fire in Chiacgo.Now there were screw ups on many ends...but the people entered the stairways and did not know the doors locked behind them!!!Once you go in you can only exit on the ground floor,they went up and died in the stairways.

Learn every building you go into.Sprinklers? Back up lighting?Are the stairwell doors one way only? Emergency phones or lighting in stairways?Are there private stairways that run between several floors used by one large firm? Are any of the strairways pressureized to keep out smoke? Hidden walkways and exits used by maintance or the "big shots".Everyone goes into and out of buildings the same way,well you need to find ALL of the exits.

It often pays to go against the flow.The other night we went to a concert at the kids school.Before it started the princple pointed out 2 rear exits "in case of emergency".We were in the front row with an exit each side of the stage,I told my wife"we"ll use those exits,closer and the crowd will now be going the other way.

www.equippedtosurvive.com
 
I've never really seen any major difference between urban/rural or wilderness survival. In all cases the same basic needs must be met. You'll need heavy gloves just as much in the sticks as you will in the city, for moving rocks and logs, or other abrasive materials, or for picking up a hot pot.

And if the situation goes on long enough, you'll either have to get out of the city and into the country, or use the city's surroundings in the same manner as if you were in the sticks. You can still fish and hunt in a city park, often with better luck due to the fact that city critters aren't used to being hunted.

So I just build a "kit" that covers all the eventualities that I can think of, and don't try to pigeon-hole it too much.
 
I always carry a Swiss Army knife, a small flashlight, and a cell phone. I also carry a railroader's bandana which can be used as a cravat, compress, or sling. Frequently I carry a half liter of bottled water.

However, I don't count on cell phones. Cell phones in Manhattan did not work during 9/11 and also went out during the power outage last August.

I am mainly concerned with getting out of a stranded subway or elevator car.

I do notice a number of NYPD police officers carrying gas masks.
 
duck tape now comes in flat packs for outdoor use...ducktape and a chris reeve sebenza and im ready for anything.
 
I have a fairly good sized kit in my work bag... goes in my car if I'm not at home or work. Samsonite executive business bag that I got for $5 new(stock clearout)

*well equipped first aid kit
*roll of quarters
*roll of pre-00 loonies(some machines don't like 2000 or later for coins, or don't accept twoonies[it's a canadian coin, $2, intro'd in 96])
*$60 cash
*35 exp disposable camera
*4 electric glow sticks(2 white, 1 red, 1 green... 30hr life with an on/off)
*2 chem glow sticks(12hr green)
*led flashlight(running 80hrs on my edc one, still going strong, quoted to get 130 to 700hrs depending on setting)
*rubber palm cotton work gloves
*fine tip felt pen
*4" fixed beater
*400lbs snap weight 'beiner
*50lbs snap weight beiner(works for gear)
*chunk of 30' rope, 200lbs snap weight(1/2" cotton 8 braid)
*chunk of 75-80' rope, 1/8 yellow poly 3 braid
*fire(magnesium keychain, ferro rod/striker/mayo wood, disposable butane lighter, 2 books of matches)
*sealed deck of cards
*spydie card
*8 "PowerBar" nutritional supliment sports bar(220cal per bar, and a lot of mineral/vitamins)

I carry my cell on me, leatherman micra is on my keys. the stuff is in 4 1litre ziplock bags.
 
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