Used small sebenza s30v sale or keep?

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I bought a used small sebenza and i'm thinking about sending it in for chris reeve spa or saleing it. My question is should i sale the knife and buy one i would really like. I really want a small S35VN with dual thumb studs but would it cost me less to send if for the complete spa and dual thumb studs? I paid 230.00 for the knife. Thanks
 
That's a pretty low price for a small sebenza. I think you can just have them drill out the thumbstud and put a double one in when you send it in, and it won't cost too much. As for the steel, not sure why you want s35vn; the s30v that they used before was better. So I'd say keep it.
 
Tsujigiri said:
the s30v that they used before was better.
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What makes you say that?
S35V is tougher, and no one whose opinion I trust has been able to differentiate between it and S30V in edge retention.
 
I think the comment was a result of the thread in the CRK forum regarding CTSs video of a flat spot in the steel?
 
See my response above.
I've tested S35V vs. S30V in edge retention.
Ankerson has tested S35V vs. S30V in edge retention and real world toughness
Spyderco has tested S35V vs. S30V in CATRA testing.

Neither Ankerson nor I can tell the difference in edge retention in our use testing.
Spyderco reports minor differences in CATRA testing results. It is Sal's opinion that they would not be noticeable in real world use.
 
Im not sure on blade steels, Im still carrying my benchmade mini stryker in 154cm after the d2 version failed on me twice. chris reeve was always known for great for s30v(and other previous types). but ive heard s30v can chip easily like my brand new 2 benchmade d2 as well. Im not sure what i want to do. I just don't want to change something that was great for something that is new. But i want the nib feeling?
 
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RevDevil said:
I think the comment was a result of the thread in the CRK forum regarding CTSs video of a flat spot in the steel?
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Yep, that was what I was thinking of. It might be a heat treat issue, or maybe it's a strength issue (although I don't see how that could be it since finer grained steels should be stronger below creep temperatures), but it seems like a few people are disappointed in the edge retention of the new steel from CRK as opposed to the old one. Since edge retention is the main factor that contributes to cost, I'd say that you'd get a "better" value for your money with a steel that has better edge retention. I do really like how finer grained steels sharpen and polish up, though...
 
There's folks whose experience I know and whose results I trust.
There's those whose results I don't trust.
There's also those whose knowledge and ability I don't know.

- As a materials engineer, I trust my own results. I know how to set up a test and have done more than a little edge retention testing.
- I've read enough of Ankerson's tests to trust his results.
- I know enough about Sal Glesser to trust his word and his results.

Why would I then think that some folks who have no background or knowledge of cutlery testing should be believed instead?

I've read the posts of the young college fella who posted his problems. Nice fella. Can't say as I trust his results in the face of the united results of three folks I do trust. Not to mention I found fault with his test techniques.
 
Interesting... Have you had any experience with S35VN, and if so what did you find? I'd be interested to hear more knowledgeable opinions about the steel and see a wider range of experiences people have had with it, but it's so new that information seems scarce. I've been a little suspicious of it so far because it seems like the intent was to cut costs rather than improve the product, and usually when a company says they've come up with something "just as good" but cheaper, it ends up really just being cheaper. I would like to see your and Ankerson's assessment of the new CRK S35VN, though, since that's where I usually look.
 
It's not worth upgrading solely for S35VN. Really for the general user it just ends up being marketing. You won't be able to tell the difference. Send it in for a spa treatment and double lugs if you like and then pocket the rest.
 
I have four Sebenzas. Two with S30V and two with S35VN. The S35VN seems to be a little easier to touch up but I have not noticed any real difference in day-to-day use. I would say send it in for the spa/lugs and enjoy the knife.
 
knarfeng said:
There's folks whose experience I know and whose results I trust.
There's those whose results I don't trust.
There's also those whose knowledge and ability I don't know.

- As a materials engineer, I trust my own results. I know how to set up a test and have done more than a little edge retention testing.
- I've read enough of Ankerson's tests to trust his results.
- I know enough about Sal Glesser to trust his word and his results.

Why would I then think that some folks who have no background or knowledge of cutlery testing should be believed instead?

I've read the posts of the young college fella who posted his problems. Nice fella. Can't say as I trust his results in the face of the united results of three folks I do trust. Not to mention I found fault with his test techniques.
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as far as i know Jankerson was saying there were flaws in the s35vn steel and that his test results were like CTS's. i also think i recall jankerson saying that Chris will eventually heat treat his knives harder after he realizes more people are having trouble with the steel. I could be wrong but there was a discussion in the Chris reeve forums were CTS and jankerson talked about these issues in greater detail. maybe you should check it out. :)
 
I did my own testing on a Native5 before all the CRK S35VN foofooraw arose. Since my results matched the information then available from both Crucible and Spyderco, I saw no need to post them.

Spyderco Native 5 Performance Testing and Review.
The Spyderco Native5 has a blade of S35VN. Jim Ankerson published this review of its performance because of the questions raised about the alloy.


CPM-S35VN - CrimsonTideShooter test
This is the thread in which Sal Glesser addresses the performance of S35VN.

There is nothing wrong with the performance of the alloy.
Since CrimsonTideShooter had equal problems with both the CRK knife and a Spyderco knife, and neither these folks nor I had any problems with a Spyderco knife, I am forced to conclude that CrimsonTideShooter's test results are incorrect.
 
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