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Not trying to be a smart-ass here, but I suppose to answer that in the broader philosophical sense in which you pose the question, we will have to first decide what it means to "own" something.
 
and yes, I owned the knife, even if I don't use it.

If you are married, but never have sex with your wife, you are still married, right. :confused:

Do you have too much time on your hands, or do you come up with this stuff as a result of insomnia? Curious minds want to know!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
That is why my art knives are not kept in their cases all the time. They are on display. That way I can enjoy them even though I don't use them.
 
I say you paid for it...you own it to do as you please or not. Hang it by a thread from the celing in the middle of the room and play "dodge the blade" every time you go by if you like. I think a better question is do you really "know" it if you don't "use" it?

I'm reminded of the Ferrari collector with the pristine >your fav here< Q: WOW nice car what does it drive like? A: Hell, I dunno never started it!
But it is worth a gazillion bucks!
 
2knife said:
Do you ever truly "own" a knife if you don't use it? Kind of a philosophical question.
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I'll give you a philosophical answer....

Yes... you own it. But it has never become a part of you.

Rod
 
Rod Neep said:
I'll give you a philosophical answer....

Yes... you own it. But it has never become a part of you.

Rod
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This is the exact thought I was trying to form as well. Owning a thing requires nothing but money. Making it a part of you takes using it and a little blood, sweat and tears.
 
But, yes. There IS an exception. If you own a Shiva Ki knife, you are then able to become "ONE" with the knife's soul and are then able to achieve perpetual harmony and bliss. :rolleyes: ;) :D
 
First there is a mountain........

then there is no mountain....


then there is.................................





:eek: :rolleyes: :eek:
 
2knife said:
Something that has been on my mind.. Do you ever truly "own" a knife if you don't use it? Kind of a philosophical question. Not using a knife, then selling it, leaves me with the feeling I never truly had or "knew" it in the first place. Do any of the rest of you guys ever think about this too?
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. . . .







NO ! It requires too much thinkin'. I won't even mention that it also requires too much talkin' with me, myself and I. :D
 
... this assumes that there is more intrinsic value and nature to the actual usage of a knife than the simple ownership, right?

This may be so for you. Not for me. Nonetheless I own a number of knives that I have used heartily, and yet they don't give me that intangible sense of pride and joy that comes from the knives that have *not* been used in my 'collection'. They were made by a maker whose work and personality and character are embedded in the knives, and offer me a greater sense of personal satisfaction than the need for cutting and usage. And so I am fulfilled enough.

Another ponderous and inescapably complex observation.

I enjoy custom knives so much that owning ALL of them is out-of-the-question. Same as everyone here. But in order to MAXIMIZE the amount of work I can own, and supporting knifemakers though purchasing more custom knives, the reality of selling and replacement costs rears it's head.

So the used vs. unused selling prices is topic enough for a thread on it's own.

Coop
 
Kohai999 said:
If you are married, but never have sex with your wife, you are still married, right. :confused:



STeven Garsson
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Well, in this case, I'd say you're definitely married... :)
 
SharpByCoop said:
... this assumes that there is more intrinsic value and nature to the actual usage of a knife than the simple ownership, right?

This may be so for you. Not for me. Nonetheless I own a number of knives that I have used heartily, and yet they don't give me that intangible sense of pride and joy that comes from the knives that have *not* been used in my 'collection'. They were made by a maker whose work and personality and character are embedded in the knives, and offer me a greater sense of personal satisfaction than the need for cutting and usage. And so I am fulfilled enough.
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Ah! But Coop! You have a different "take" on knives that are pieces of art. We all know that, and we can see it in your photos. And yes... most are pieces of art. Therefore you would tend to treat them rather like a Van Gogh, and gain immense pleasure, and emotion, from just looking at them.

Me... I like that feeling of a warm knife in my hand when I take it out of my pocket ;)

A cold one out of the cabinet just doesn't feel the same.

Cheers
Rod
 
To further this question, have you ever really owned a knife designed for sepaku if you have not used it for its intended purpose?
 
Good thoughts from all. I reread that story, I was wrong about part of it. The lesson was intended to be about being a miser with treasures, not that keeping something unused is a wasted treasure. (I think Megalobyte understands this question from a "broad" perspective) ;)
David
 
Put it this way, if I had to choose between my user '99 Sebenza and my damascus wood inlay Sebenza, the decision would easily favor the user. One is MY knife, the other would just become the next guy's new knife.

Probably my prized knife is really nothing extraordinary. A 1915 Marble's Woodcraft that has been passed down from my Grandfather. I remember hanging bullhead through the gills on the back wall of the shed and cutting their heads off with this old knife when I was a kid. I remember my Dad using this knife hunting, as did I. Now if this knife had been a pristine Scagel, sure it would be worth more monetarily, but would fail miserably in attempting to match the value the old Marble's has as a treasured family heirloom.

I certainly have some pieces that I am quite fond of, but they would not be missed nearly as much as those that have been carried and used through the years.
 
Some people use knives to cut things.

Some people use knives for aesthetic appreciation, but never cut anything with them. :D

Some people use knives as investment vehicles.

Some people use knives as decorations, on their belt or wall or in a display case.

No matter what your use, if it's yours, you own it.

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Steven, what's up with your response? Too much time on your hands? Not enough sleep lately? ;)
 
Yes,

Feeling philosophical. Yes, have some extra time on my hands lately, and yes, not sleeping well. Do I own the knife, or does the knife own me? OMMMM! :D

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Hmmm.....
Some knives, like many fancy fighters, were never really meant to be used, except in dire situation, and there are A LOT of them out there.
Yes, they will hold up beautifully if used, but do knifemakers really think that a fancy fighter will really get used if sold to a middle-age professional.
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I doubt it. I doubt it very, very much.
 
Along the same lines as Coop, probably 99% of my custom knives have never been "used" in the conventional sense of the word. Fondled,displayed,engraved, shown, photographed and admired are all important uses for "art" pieces. As for daily carry and use, well that's why there are companies like William Henry, CRK, and Benchmade. Dare I say that some would consider it to be "less than brilliant" to use some of those knives on a daily basis. It all depends on your perspective of a particular knife. I'm quite content to use a CRK mnandi or Wm. Henry B7 and a Victorinox Yeoman to meet my daily needs.
 
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