Hey guys, I'm in the market for a new canteen since the cheapie I got is breaking down. I was looking at the USGI canteen when I saw this site (canteenshop.com) that had a bunch of canteen accessories. Thats when I saw the canteen stove and all the potential uses for it. I could eliminate my cook set and just carry the canteen cup and stove!!! However, I'm on a tight budget (still in school) and I recently decided to shell out most of what I had for a belt grinder. The site sells the stove for $10 which is a little steep for a piece of shaped aluminum... Factor in a canteen, the cup, shipping, and the pouch to hold all of it and it can get a bit pricey. Does anyone have any experience with this peice of gear and know of a better place to buy it? Preferably on the same site so I dont have to pay twice for shipping. Thanks a lot guys!
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USGI Canteen Stove
- Thread starter BChou-E29
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You might be surprised how complicated this can get...
There are two USGI stoves, the older stove has an open bottom, the new one has a closed bottom, for use with the gel fuel which has replaced the now hard-to-find trioxane bars. The new one will not work well if you want to use a twig fire, as it lacks the large opening in the front. (The stove shown above is the older style, with the opening).
There are two cup styles, too - one with wire handles (as shown above, and which I personally prefer) and one with a rigid folding handle.
Also note that newer USGI canteens have a complicated valve on the cap for use with a gas mask; it's not a big deal, but the older style is simpler and easier to keep clean.
Finally, there is the NATO standard canteen and stove set, call the Crusader, which is not compatible with the GI gear at all.
Have a look at that photo in the post above - some folks say you should rotate your cup 180 degrees, so that it leaves more of an air gap at the top of the stove, and so that the reduced metal-to-metal contact minimizes the heat-sink effect. Others say it's hooey. You'll need to sort out this controversy on your own, I'm afraid.
The cup caps are nice, if you can find them, and if they will fit in your carrier. Most are plastic, which limits their use during cooking. I just carry a bit of tin foil.
I have yet to experiment with the alcohol gel fuel, but it seems to work well from what I have read.
I found a civilian canteen pouch on ebay that holds everything, and has two pockets for my lighter, my tea bags, and my foil square. A trioxane bar or two rides in that little gap in the back, where the canteen is curved to fit against your hip. When I have my kit, tea is always a possiblity.
There are two USGI stoves, the older stove has an open bottom, the new one has a closed bottom, for use with the gel fuel which has replaced the now hard-to-find trioxane bars. The new one will not work well if you want to use a twig fire, as it lacks the large opening in the front. (The stove shown above is the older style, with the opening).
There are two cup styles, too - one with wire handles (as shown above, and which I personally prefer) and one with a rigid folding handle.
Also note that newer USGI canteens have a complicated valve on the cap for use with a gas mask; it's not a big deal, but the older style is simpler and easier to keep clean.
Finally, there is the NATO standard canteen and stove set, call the Crusader, which is not compatible with the GI gear at all.
Have a look at that photo in the post above - some folks say you should rotate your cup 180 degrees, so that it leaves more of an air gap at the top of the stove, and so that the reduced metal-to-metal contact minimizes the heat-sink effect. Others say it's hooey. You'll need to sort out this controversy on your own, I'm afraid.
The cup caps are nice, if you can find them, and if they will fit in your carrier. Most are plastic, which limits their use during cooking. I just carry a bit of tin foil.
I have yet to experiment with the alcohol gel fuel, but it seems to work well from what I have read.
I found a civilian canteen pouch on ebay that holds everything, and has two pockets for my lighter, my tea bags, and my foil square. A trioxane bar or two rides in that little gap in the back, where the canteen is curved to fit against your hip. When I have my kit, tea is always a possiblity.
Gotta watch out for mil-style stuff too. One guy said he can't fit cup in stove.
Here's a pic of "older" stove that's been around since WWII and newer cup:
http://wardenssupplyco.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=307
Here's a pic of newer stove, gotta get one for my collection:
http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/product/desert-storm-canteen-cup-stove-4221.cfm
Here's a pic of "older" stove that's been around since WWII and newer cup:
http://wardenssupplyco.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=307
Here's a pic of newer stove, gotta get one for my collection:
http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/product/desert-storm-canteen-cup-stove-4221.cfm
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