Vacuum on the cheap?

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Anyone tried a pump -n- seal as a vacuum source for drawing hardener/stabilizier/oil into wood handles on the cheap?

http://www.pump-n-seal.com/

I just remembered about this thing earlier this week as my dad was asking me about stuff that I might still have in my room at parents house that I would possibly need. He was asking about a few stones and diamond sharpeners I had there, as he knows i makke knives now. Told him I have a few better things now(belt grinders and sharpmaker) so those didn't really concern me.

After I hung up though, remembered that I had one of these there. I haven't tried it for knifemaking uses, and not sure how it'd work, but I used to use it for food storage, and while I tend to not trust claims on a products website, I can attest that it pulled a nice vacuum in mason jars. I never measured it, as I didn't ahve equipment for that, but it was definitely pulling serious vacuum, as the test results on there seem to claim.

I'm not sure how it'd work for stabilizing wood at home, as I haven't played with any of those resins yet, but wondering if it'd be useful at least for simple things like pulling oil into wood. I know some of the makers here talk about putting slabs in a bag or jar full of BLO overnight, or even for a few days to help it absorb as much of the oil as possible. It seems to me that a simple 1 qt mason jar, a pump n seal, and slabs with enough BLO would do an even better job of soaking through the wood as much as possible.

Might be useful for making yoru own micarta or stabilizing wood too, don't know. WOuld need input from someone who's had more experience with B72 or other similar resins.

ANy opinions/input on this idea? I ordered myself another one whether it works fo rhtis or not. think it was $24 shipped, and I can sue it for food storage agian if the knife stuff doesn't wor out.
 
I have a pump-n-seal and have attempted stabilizing with it. I haven't got the results I wanted, so I put it down for a lil' while. I was using minwax wood hardener at that time. Now that I have some B72, I should probably see if it works, eh? :rolleyes:

I'll give it a shot this weekend and let you know.

It takes some getting used to - using the pump-n-seal. If you are confident you can get a seal with it, you'll do fine. Just don't overfill because it can really gum it up if you get it inside it. I did that...:o ...but was able to take it apart, clean it, and put it back together - works fine now.


I too am curious if anybody else has used one...it's painfully simple in principle...so if it actually work, it would be wonderful...
 
Yeha, years back, used it allt he time, still eating veggies I "canned"(vacpacked in a mason jar) with the thing pre y2k, and still holding a vacuum on them. Never did anything with liquids, so will take some work, but easy to take apart and clean, and easy to operate once you get used to it, so figured it might be worth a try.

You say it doens't work with Minwax though? Guess I ahve to invest in some B72 sometime. ANd have to figure outanother container, mason jar would work for slabs, but if I wanted to use this for micarta would ahve to get something bigger I'd guess, and flatter.
 
etp777, I just ordered one of those things. I don't know what type of stabilizing agent to use at this time, but I don't think micarta has to be stabilized at all. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a newbie. Keep us posted on your results. Thanks.

Bill
 
Joel's looking to make his own micarta...;)
 
Not only do you pull a vacum but then you pressurize the system. Something like 30,000psi. Call K&G and talk to Ken he'll be more than happy to explane the process. About the only thing you could have any kind of success at stabalizing, would be something like coral, or any type of porous material.

Michael
 
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