Valerian Root

Puts to sleep but causes crazy dreams. Not nearly as crazy as mugwort though
 
It is classified as a Nervine. Somewhat calmative, anti seizure, anti nervous. If you are taking any allopathic drugs for depression, seizures, etc., Valerian may interfere with them. A combo of Valerian, Passion flower, Russian scullcap, and mistletoe is a general mild nervine and soporific.
 
I recently bought a tincture from herb pharm to no effect, I thought maybe there was until I took a larger dose (about 1/2 oz) to see if it would make me drowsy or any change and felt no alteration, just picked up some capsules of a different brand however and gonna try some root before relegating it to placebo
 
I've tried it. It put me to sleep for the whole night, but I felt tired and extremely groggy all the next day. Perhaps it puts you to sleep, but not into REM sleep? Not really sure. I just know I'd never take it again.
 
I bought this one and took last night, effects were noticeable however so subtle I thought it might be in my head but no something definitely there not placebo I've had doctors try to give me placebos and called them on it successfully, I took 2 (recommended dose) and felt effects after about 1.5-2 hrs they were pretty short-lived so I took 1 more to see if it would boost which I didn't notice it do, so then took 2 more right before bed, woke up feeling fine no grogginess like experienced with too much melatonin, I don't know that it did much for a better nights rest but I'll continue it for a week or so to see if I notice an overall improvement.
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I just spoke with a friend about it and he said he doesn't like it but uses it when he needs a deep sleep but that takes a much higher dose like 3-4x recommended so perhaps I'll start by increasing the dosage.
 
I took it and found that its effects induce a mild relaxing feeling and it helps somewhat for sleep. Long term I found that my sleep became more fragmented and it bothered my heart with a pounding heart beat. I stopped using it as a result. Reducing one's stress and a glass of scotch is more effective.
 
Agree with the stress reduction and maybe a night cap of brandy or something. Maybe abit of weed if you're getting desperate.
 
Yeah these sleep aids are definitely a band-aid for a deeper dysfunction which should definitely be assessed & addressed but they can be beneficial for brief respites. I'm looking to create a cocktail of sorts that's not as depressant mostly experimenting with ingredients at the moment.
 
Sosa said:
Puts to sleep but causes crazy dreams. Not nearly as crazy as mugwort though
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Thanks for that I'll look into mugwort.

Took double dose last night around 4,000 mg, I feel well rested.. don't remember any dreams so maybe I spent most of my time in Delta but I also went to sleep tired and usually don't remember much in that state. I did awaken around (if I had to guess 30-60 minutes) before my alarm went off and couldn't fall back to sleep which is abnormal for me. Looking forward to upping the dosage again, seems like potential in it.
 
I really don't know if mugwort has any effect on insomnia but it's definitely a dream herb. Usually it's smoked before bed but tea is also drank. A real knockout combo is valerian, benedryl and melatonin but it could effect you the next day depending on the ratio.
 
Sounds interesting have you had many dreams with it?

Took 6 capsules of the valerian last night and no noticeable increase in efficacy, so far this stuff is quite unpredictable, I haven't read that it builds tolerance that quickly but who knows going to give it a rest for a few days and come back to it.
 
My first introduction to valerian root was in a non-human vein. In country here, I occasionally encounter mouse issues. I live trap and drive the little beggars way to far to return! Makes for an overall mouse-free life.

Some mice like one trap over another. I find that it is efficient to keep three different trap types set in the most desirable food source area. Maybe hard to believe, but some mice become highly efficient at entering and exiting certain traps. That's why I use three types. Sooner or later .... :eek: Then for the delightful drive in the country and introduction to the new landscape. :) As long as it is not my place. Done.

So, one of the traps I use which is honestly one of the most effective in capturing mice, is the 'Mouse Inn'. Plastic construction which used to be of stronger construction when it first came out. They include pellets of valerian root to calm the trapped mouse. Not only have I never seen one of the many pellets touched by the mice, but the weaker/cheaper construction of the trap in recent times has actually allowed the trapped mice, given time, to rip the door right off its hinges!

So, although this trap works, I have to be prepared to drop this whole trap, while the mouse is still inside, into some containment that will last until the morning just in case they escape (which is predictable) ... so that I am not having to drive while just awakened from a sleep. I use an old roasting pan. Honestly, I have seen mice come and go from traps, moving food from one to another. I admit I do admire their ingenuity at times.

So valerian root. Mice don't seem to like it. But it must have some properties that are calming. You have a corporation that invests in its calming properties to keep mice from ripping its cheap doors off - doesn't work. It is also recommended for my pup's thunder storm anxiety.

My thoughts, it likely has some mild calming properties, on some more than others. And, hey, if it works, thank goodness ... calm is all too hard to come by. :)
 
I've seen it as an ingredient in many herbal tisanes including the one that my company makes, I know my mom drinks our tisane and says it works, I have yet to really get a noticeable change in my sleep when drinking it but I do like my caffeine.
 
Interesting you mention melatonin.. seemingly it is very similar to melatonin in that it is very short acting and may help with going to sleep, I noticed a calming nudge but nothing like I had anticipated, I also noticed that tolerance builds rapidly and had no noticeable effect when taken 2 days in a row. Kind of lame but maybe a good natural alternative to melatonin.
 
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