Valkyrie Knives K9 Review

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Friday the Valkyrie Knives K9 that I sharked in the FBF thread arrived. I've been playing with it all day and wanted to share my thoughts on this little blade and Adam's work in general with you.

Here is the pic of the knife from the 7/4/14 FBF thread:

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The blade is 6" OAL and has a 2 3/4" cutting edge. It's a lot of knife in a very small package. From the moment I picked it up, I knew it would be capable of much more than its small stature would have suggested. It just felt like a very capable blade. The fit and finish of the blade is very nice. The symmetry is dead on, and the grinds are beautiful. Adam clearly knows how to make a knife.

My only reservation about the knife was the top swedge. I'm not a fan of them in general and find that while they look cool, they typically are not very useful and often get in the way.

The knife is really in its own class, given the blade to handle ratio. You don't see a lot of knives with such a little handle and so much blade. I have to say, Adam really makes it work. I used this knife for a good 4 hours today and my hands were fine. I can't say it's the most comfortable knife I've ever used, but you have to keep its size in mind when considering the comfort. I would have never guessed it would have been so comfortable to use. Really no complaints at all in comfort category when it comes to my strong hand (I'll get to my weak hand thumb later, but it's not the handles fault).

The blade is best held with a 3 1/2 finger grip. Given that my pinky was always half way off the grip, I was surprised how secure the blade was in my hand. You really have to handle one to understand how well the grip works. Here's a pic of how I gripped it most of the time:



You can technically get 4 fingers on there if you have fairly skinny fingers, but it's very uncomfortable and leads to your index finger getting a hot spot from the guard. Fat fingers folks won't stand a chance of getting all 4 on there. Here are my four digits crammed on there:



All in all, the contour of the grip and the large guard make this knife very secure and comfortable even with a 3 1/2 finger grip. I was extremely pleased with how it felt. Speaking the large guard, I really like it on this knife. When you're using a little knife to do bigger knife things, it's not hard to have your hand slip and potentially injure yourself. The guard on this knife takes any of those fears away, it lets you really use this knife to its fullest

So how did it cut? This little monster came very sharp. Adam did an excellent job in the shop. I wanted to see how his edge would hold up, so I took the dog for a walk and started whittling and doing all kinds of stuff with it. It made fuzz sticks very easily:



Notched without effort:



And worked very well to make stakes:



I whittled several sticks along my walk, much more than what these pictures show, but I snapped a few pics at the end just because�well, we all like pics.

Even after several hours of playing around, my hands were not sore and the blade remained hair shaving sharp. I'm very pleased with the way the edge held up. I'd say Adam clearly knows what he's doing when it comes to heat treat; I'm very happy with the edge. I like to put a toothy edge on my knives, and before I started typing this review, I played around with the knife and it did an awesome job taking a nice toothy edge. Adams edge came nice and smooth from the factory, so no matter how you like your edges, this knife will make it sing.

The one part of hand that got sore was actually the thumb on my weak hand. My strong hand was fine. The small handle meant that I was doing a lot of push cuts to maintain control, and as you can see below, this meant that my thumb was on the swedge a lot. I was by myself trying to take these pics with my phone, so forgive my crappy picture, but I tried to capture what I'm talking about:



As I stated above, I'm really not a swedge fan, and this is a prime reason why. Leaving the swedge off the knife would increase the comfort factor a lot!

Speaking of the swedge, you might have noticed in some of the pics above that the tip of the knife is broken off�yep, I broke my brand new knife. Dang :(. When I got back, I went into the garage and got a scrap of 2x4 and started drilling/prying a hole in it.



This is something I like to try out on new knives because it really give you piece of mind knowing your tip is strong. I knew this was a bit risky given the swedge on the knife and thus the thin tip, but if I am going to carry and use this knife, I needed to know it wouldn't fail in the woods. About half way through, I noticed the tip was bent:



Then it broke: :(



I'm not sure if this falls under what Andy refers to stupidity in his warranty section, but I've done it with several knives without fail.

I even did a little light chopping just to see how it would fair. Obviously this knife is not a chopper and you can't swing it very hard, but as you can see in this pic, it bit into the 2x4 rather well.



Really, the only downfall of this knife is the swedge IMO. Without it, the knife would be much more comfortable when making push cuts, and given the small size of the handle, controlled push cuts will be used a lot with this knife in the woods. Also, as you can see, the tip is just too delicate. Removing the swedge would beef up the tip.

I leaned on this little knife pretty hard and the edge held up great! I'm not sure what more I can ask for from O1. It performed great. You can see some hair on it in the pic below despite me using it roughly (the breeze blew most of it off, but trust me, it was there).



This knife is really something to behold. I'm not a wordsmith by any stretch, so it's hard for me to describe how cool this little knife is. You could make the handle longer, but then it wouldn't be in the pocket/compact class any more. It's the most capable knife I've ever used in this small pocket class. I absolutely love how much knife there is in such a little package. I think this knife is the absolute perfect companion to a larger blade (I hate to keep harping on this, but, if it didn't have the swedge). This knife is far more capable that similar knives I've used (the ESEE Izula and Bark River Bravo Necker come immediately to mind). It's so close to being the ultimate compact blade.

I'm bummed that I broke the tip and will definitely buy another one, IF I can get one without the swedge. I know they look cool, but I want to use this little guy and for what I use a knife for, the swedge is the only limiting factor this knife has. If you tend to use your tip to penetrate and not much else, then you'll love the swedge, but I think the tip would penetrate fine even without it.

Here is a shot comparing it in size to a Runt and a HB:



If you guys have any questions or comments, feel free to share. I've tried to be as honest as I can and give this young knife maker a review for others to learn more about him.

PS, while I didn't skin anything with it, I have a feeling this would make a quite capable skinner as well. Compact and has a good bit of belly to work with.

PPS, I want to get my hands on a Valkyrie Companion to test out as well. The tip breaking was a function of it being so thin, not any fault of the heat treat. I feel confident in saying this because the edge performed so well. Basically, I'm so happy with every other aspect of this blade that I want to try out other designs he offers…mainly the swedgeless ones ;)
 
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I'm really happy to see that the knife performed well despite the tip breaking off. I do make this model without the Swedge and after seeing this review i probably won't be putting to many Swedges on K-9s in the future. ;)

PS I'm happy to fix the tip or trade you a K9 without a Swedge.

I really appreciate the honest review Eric
Thanks Adam
 
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Esdunbar,

That was a very thorough review with good photos that emphasized your observations. I appreciate your honest feedback about what features that you liked or didn't like. Every good knife review should include some suggestions for improvement to the maker. You covered that with swedge grind and its impact on tip strength for your uses. That is useful feedback to Adam and the rest us readers. I agree with your finding that swedge grinds do not add practical value on a field knife. Aside from that feature, the knife looks like a stout option for a compact knife. I really like the comparison photo with the Runt and Hiking Buddy for reference.

Thanks again for an excellent review.

Phil
 
The swedge may be a setback in hard use, but it's a small knife. I think the swedge gives the knife attitude and attractiveness. Knife just wouldn't be the same to me without it.
 
Well, it stinks that the tip broke off, but it makes sense. The knife was not made for prying. I make some thin knives and I teach that method as well. Each knife is different and some are thinner than others. When I'm drilling with a tip, I certainly don't sink the tip into something and pry to start the hole. Prying is a different thing and immediately the physics isn't good for a very hard sliver of steel. In fact, while heat treating the knife for cutting tasks, and grinding it to do those properly, we kind of ruin the prying ability of our knives. They physics during use and the design and HT is exactly the opposite for a prying tool. I think that part of the testing is kinda silly, but I appreciate your practical attitude about it as well. If you find a tip that prys well, its not going to do any fine cutting. This knife was definitely intended for boxes, and tape and string, and maybe a few quick whitling tasks. Its a utility knife. The question was asked, and I am going to be clear, this prying thing would have voided my warranty. The reason there is no such thing as a lateral pressure stress test on blades is that each one tells you nothing about the knife. You didn't learn anything about the tip you didn't know before prying with it. Thats not how the physics work. You could have measured the ft/lbs of pressure you put laterally, and still learn nothing even if you repeated the test 100x. No information gleaned about the next blade.

Don't pry with your knives. Its like pushing a nail into a raw egg and expecting the shell to hold.

Its fixable without much hassle. Why not send it in for repair?
 
You mean when he was stabbing the tip into and wiggling it out of the wood? That wasn't prying IMO.
 
I was thinking of the exact same video. Although, I believe Adam has sorta transitioned to thinner blade knives since this video, and I'd imagine he's more sensible with his knives now (not necessarily saying he wasn't before). I can imagine the difficulty for knifemakers like Andy in that there are so many videos out there where the so called reviewers do these "stress" tests with knives, and newcomers automatically expect all knives to handle it, while also being lightsabers...On a side note, didn't someone on this sub break the tip of his hunter several months ago? Andy reground it for him and he ended up with a pretty cool looking mod.

someone tell Adam he's voiding his warranty:

http://youtu.be/wN6fyrWQbS8?t=2m24s

And great review esdunbar, and thanks for sharing it with us. Putting out knife reviews with pictures is time consuming, so appreciate the time you put into it. Though K9 isn't exactly my cup of tea, I'm really digging all the knives Adam's putting out there. I think he really has a distinct sense of style about his knives, and certainly looks to be establishing his brand.
 
Hey guys, sorry, been away for a few days with very limited connectivity. I wanted to report that Adam has contacted me about sending the blade back to have it repaired. I will be reaching out to him today and getting sent back in. That's great customer service IMO.

Also, I forgot to comment on the coating. I don't know if it's the same coating as the Bluebacks or not (I don't have a Blueback to compare it to), but it's a really great coating. I don't like the painted/sprayed on type coating that add thickness and drag to the blade. This is a chemical reaction/patina coating of some sort. It looks nice and appears to hold up really well from what I can see. Unless you just hate black blades, I can't find a downside to this coating, and with the benefit of added corrosion resistance, I'm a huge fan of this.

I have a couple of comments based on what some others have said.

The swedge on this knife definitely makes it look cooler. No doubt about it. Further, I could argue that for some people, the swedge is an advantage. This is a broad blade, so if your knife use involves penetrating routinely with the tip, the swedge is a huge help and will make the knife better for your purposes. It just doesn't help me in what I use a knife for.

There were a couple comments about this being a small knife and intented for light duties like opening boxes. If the K9 is meant for light duty, then I would argue that there are several knives out there that are better suited for those tasks. I think a Runt, an ESEE Candaru or Izula and the Bark River Necker are all knives I've owned that would be better suited. Each of those knives are more compact and lighter than the K9. What I think makes the K9 so special is that it isn't much larger than the knives I mentioned, but it is capable of so much more than those knives. It's truly the best example I've seen of a small knife that can be used like a larger knife. Many makers have attempted such a knife, but I think Adam has nailed it. Remember, this is a fairly thick blade.

As it relates to drilling with the tip of a knife; this isn't my first rodeo. I didn't put any crazy pressure on the knife. I've done this numerous times and typically without issue. I didn't slam it into the wood as hard or deep as the E2E did in that video posted above. I knew the tip was thin, but I was still genuinely surprised when the tip deformed and then broke. My most carried knife (ESSE 3) is from thinner stock and can do it with ease, I've also done it with both my large and small Sebenzas. Without the swedge, I'd be surprised if the K9 didn't perform wonderfully. It's certainly not a scientific test, but nothing about using a knife is scientific. Either the knife will do what you want or it won't, that's the way I look at it.

Adam posted that he had a new batch of K9's coming. I'd highly recommend picking one up! Trust me, you'll love it. Sure, the tip broke, big deal, it was a thin tip and I pushed it. Very rarely do I use the tip in such a manner. If I can get a K9 without the swedge, I think it would actually unseat my beloved ESEE 3 as my go to, always take it with me knife. It's just so capable and so compact. Even with the swedge, it still might become my favorite. If you get this little monster and only open a box with it, it would be like getting a Wrangler with snorkle package and a lift kit and only drive it down a dirt road. :D I already PM'd Adam about a Companion, that's how much I like his work. (Beware fellow sharks, I'm hunting a Companion).

I'm not saying you don't need another knife, obviously when you're doing tasks that you know you're going to using a knife a lot you'll want something more substantial. In those cases, bring your bigger knife along. I'm talking about the knife you carry with you all the time. I love my Fiddleback Bushcrafter, just love it, but I don't carry that around with me all weekend. Even when camping I don't keep my knife on me all the time. I also carry a hand gun (always with me), so keeping a 4" or larger kinfe on me along with my gun gets to be a bit much. When I was camping this week, I had my gun on my right hip and my K9 carried horizontal in a cross draw position. It was so comfortable, I never took it off. I didn't once find a need to get up and get a larger knife, I just used the K9. I usually carry the ESSE 3 in a pocket, but the K9 horizontal on the belt worked much better.

People use knives in all kinds of ways. Certain things like swedges are must haves for some and despised by others (for example, as much as I love my ESEE, the choil on it drives me friggin nuts!). Some folks never get after the tip of their blade, others find they use the tip all the time for any number of things. My review is one view from one knife user. Take what I've said and see if it applies to you or learn from it what you can. No matter what, one thing you should take from it is...you definitely need to get yourself a K9, it's a really cool and unique blade.
 
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Personally, your photos and review have made me want one of these pretty badly to try as an EDC blade. Seems like such a unique package. Thanks esdunbar.

Of course, first I have to get un-grounded from more knife purchases.... 😄


Michael
 
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