Vector-ized warhammer?

[Cpl Punishment]

OK, there's no getting around it, nothing will substitute.

A little background:

I admit, it's mostly fantasy. I'm writing a story about some plainspeople -- alternate universe kind of thing. They live on fairly harsh steppe type land. Their primary tools are a kukri and a type of pick hammer. I looked at my drawings, and as much as I did not have it in mind, my idea of their tool looks exactly like a warhammer. It's mostly tool -- used for pounding stakes, and prying rocks and roots loose, sometimes using it as a pick to pop between rocks and loosen rocky soil.

More to the point:
The Cold Steel warhammer looks promising. They say it's 5150 steel, which should be plenty heavy duty for hammer and pick duty, even on rocks. How would the Vector hafts handle driving the head into rock and prying it loose? They seem to be great for impacts, but how are they on sustained prying?

I was thinking this would make a good project for the Meat Tenderizer treatment on the hammer face. Although it would violate your 1inch per ounce rule (the hammer weighs ~ 40 oz.), I was thinking a 24" handle. Again, it's mostly a tool, but in weapon use, i see it paired with a lighter weapon like the Black Mamba, which would do the speed work, such as hooking the other guy's weapon and getting it out of the way and him off balance, while the hammer would land the real headbuster.

Thoughts?

 

[Carolina River Rat]

I'd love to see a Vectorized CS Warhammer.

 

[vector001]

OK, there's no getting around it, nothing will substitute.

A little background:

I admit, it's mostly fantasy. I'm writing a story about some plainspeople -- alternate universe kind of thing. They live on fairly harsh steppe type land. Their primary tools are a kukri and a type of pick hammer. I looked at my drawings, and as much as I did not have it in mind, my idea of their tool looks exactly like a warhammer. It's mostly tool -- used for pounding stakes, and prying rocks and roots loose, sometimes using it as a pick to pop between rocks and loosen rocky soil.

More to the point:
The Cold Steel warhammer looks promising. They say it's 5150 steel, which should be plenty heavy duty for hammer and pick duty, even on rocks. How would the Vector hafts handle driving the head into rock and prying it loose? They seem to be great for impacts, but how are they on sustained prying?

good question, brother. (cool story setting BTW. you should do it.)

the Strike Plate serves more than one function (the Strike Plate is the rectangular face on all of our handles so far.) if our handle was round or oval, like most handles, it would have no notable "force bias" in the cross direction, which the Strike Plate allows (the Strike Plate also puts more force into the strike, because of its flat fiber-aligned side structure, while oval handles dump energy laterally, putting your energy to waste.) - so it is better at prying than a handle made of similar materials, essentially.

the corners of the Strike Plate are good hand-friendly bone breakers and control surfaces too, when you press them up against nerve points and soft tissue.

that said, although our handles are Covered Unconditionally, and have done quite well in long term prying usage, if you are going to get a handle from us and expect to do a lot of crazy cross-strains on it (climbers like to do this, for instance) then just let us know and we will strengthen your custom handle in that regard - that's a benefit of the Gen 1 Mk 4 design over its antecedents - quick modifications, before and after the build process.

the best handle would be built for you though, vice modified later.

I was thinking this would make a good project for the Meat Tenderizer treatment on the hammer face. Although it would violate your 1inch per ounce rule (the hammer weighs ~ 40 oz.), I was thinking a 24" handle.

actually, it doesn't violate the Ounce-Per-Inch tomahawk ratio, because it is a War Hammer; more than an ounce per inch in length is a great ratio for War Hammers.

War Hammers have up to 1.5 ounce per inch to 2.0 ounces per inch ratios IMHO. they are different animals than hawks.

a 90 ounce, five foot long War Hammer is a thing of beauty to wield.

a 70 ounce War Hammer will make you wear a kilt and involuntarily chase people.

these things get a hold of your inner Celt.

Again, it's mostly a tool, but in weapon use, i see it paired with a lighter weapon like the Black Mamba, which would do the speed work, such as hooking the other guy's weapon and getting it out of the way and him off balance, while the hammer would land the real headbuster.

Thoughts?

you are a dirty, dirty boy. :thumbup:

those are my first thoughts.


i really like the hammer polls on the hawks for using as the primary attacking surface - and using the bit for slices, hooks, come-alongs, and coup de grâce.

the Shark's Tooth makes that even easier, and can be put on any hawk or Battle Axe.

Shark's Tooth Grind on Bit (shown).

just imagine completely ducking out of the way of an adversary's slash, smashing him on the foot with that poll, and then hooking his groin with a Shark's Tooth on the recovery.

such a guile-ful, simple, fluid move - you'd own him instantly.

every sane Comer after that would look for an easier opponent to fight in a battle.

remember, we are gentlemen and men of honor; Always Smash Nicely.

....har...!

vec

 

[Billy516]

a 70 ounce war hammer will make you wear a kilt and involuntarily chase people.

These things get a hold of your inner celt.

Ha! This one made me

 

[Cpl Punishment]

good question, brother. (cool story setting BTW. you should do it.)

the Strike Plate serves more than one function (the Strike Plate is the rectangular face on all of our handles so far.) if our handle was round or oval, like most handles, it would have no notable "force bias" in the cross direction, which the Strike Plate allows (the Strike Plate also puts more force into the strike, because of its flat fiber-aligned side structure, while oval handles dump energy laterally, putting your energy to waste.) - so it is better at prying than a handle made of similar materials, essentially.

the corners of the Strike Plate are good hand-friendly bone breakers and control surfaces too, when you press them up against nerve points and soft tissue.

that said, although our handles are Covered Unconditionally, and have done quite well in long term prying usage, if you are going to get a handle from us and expect to do a lot of crazy cross-strains on it (climbers like to do this, for instance) then just let us know and we will strengthen your custom handle in that regard - that's a benefit of the Gen 1 Mk 4 design over its antecedents - quick modifications, before and after the build process.

the best handle would be built for you though, vice modified later.

Sweet, we'll talk.

actually, it doesn't violate the Ounce-Per-Inch tomahawk ratio, because it is a War Hammer; more than an ounce per inch in length is a great ratio for War Hammers.

War Hammers have up to 1.5 ounce per inch to 2.0 ounces per inch ratios IMHO. they are different animals than hawks.

Cool, so a 24 incher would put this right in the middle of that. . .

a 90 ounce, five foot long War Hammer is a thing of beauty to wield.

a 70 ounce War Hammer will make you wear a kilt and involuntarily chase people.

these things get a hold of your inner Celt.

LOL, how did you know I was a Scotsman??

you are a dirty, dirty boy. :thumbup:

those are my first thoughts.

From you, I'll take that as a compliment.

i really like the hammer polls on the hawks for using as the primary attacking surface - and using the bit for slices, hooks, come-alongs, and coup de grâce.

the Shark's Tooth makes that even easier, and can be put on any hawk or Battle Axe.

Shark's Tooth Grind on Bit (shown).

just imagine completely ducking out of the way of an adversary's slash, smashing him on the foot with that poll, and then hooking his groin with a Shark's Tooth on the recovery.

such a guile-ful, simple, fluid move - you'd own him instantly.

every sane Comer after that would look for an easier opponent to fight in a battle.

remember, we are gentlemen and men of honor; Always Smash Nicely.

....har...!

vec

Yeah, I've been eyeing that damn shark's tooth one since you posted it!

 

[vector001]

Yeah, I've been eyeing that damn shark's tooth one since you posted it!

i personally love that thing.

i've got a couple Optimized heads that are slightly different than Frank (shown), one for me, one for my bud.

maybe i shoulda called the Shark's Tooth the "Celtic Hook" or somethin' ...hehehe...!

all these good Scotsmen and me with no blue face paint, dang it....

vec