vesuvius ?

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SCOUT

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Being a long time owner of numerous spydy products, I have a few questions for the Spyderco design team.
1.The hole position on the vesuvius seems to be well suited for tip up carry,why make this folder tip down ?
2.The most common opening method for tip down spydies is the drop method. Isn't it possible for newbies to throw their new fragile handled knives to the floor?
 
Scout - Welcome to the Spyderco forum.

The Vesuvius is slated for a "deep pocket" style tip down carry. It is also slated for left/right clip location.

Tip down was selected for several reasons;


1. Frank Centofante designed the knife tip down.
2. Tip down permits a more discreet carry, especially with the "brightly colored scales".
3. The closed position method is new and we'd like some hisory with this method before using it on tip up carry.

The "drop" method is not as common (many don't know how to do it). Yes, it is always possible to "drop" your knife on the ground although it is not as common as one might expect, especially with experienced knife users.

"Drop opening" & "quick draw drop opening" are different in the addition of "speed". The addition of "speed" offers it's dangers in doing anything (like driving).

sal

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Sal -

Two questions:

1) You didn't address the comment about fragile handles. Is this G-10 less impact resistant than good ol' black?

2) You mention the "closed position method". Could you elaborate?

Thanks!

[This message has been edited by Brian_Turner (edited 06-27-2000).]
 
I've been carrying my prototype Vesuvius for several days now.

It wants to ride in my right front pocket, because the thumb ramp on top of the blade wants to drag on the corner of my right rear pocket.

The blade is held closed by a "ramp" that feels like a moderate-engagement ball bearing detent in use. It doesn't take much of a "flip" to move me blade in mine past it and out to the open position. As with a liner lock, there's no backspring or other spring (as in a lockback or Axis-Lock) to pull the blade back into the handle when it's a little bit open. Therefore the blade wants to be carried tip down, for the sake of one's fingers.

The pearl material is a very thin layer bonded to the G10 in some very techie process they're not dicussing much. The G10 is a very long way from "fragile," of course. I would guess that knocking the knife about could cause that layer to develop a hairline crack or two, but it's a composite to begin with, so I'm not sure how bad the cosmetic damage would be.


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Thank you to all that responded!

I was wondering about how the compression lock would respond to tip up carry until the feedback I recieved. The large Wegner I have is one of the safest tip up carry knives I own, however I can appreciate your caution in introducing the new knife tip up concidering today's legal environment! Maybe the rounding off of the g10 scales will prevent any possible damage of what happens to be a striking array of handle choices!
p.s. not a newbie, just a lurker who has been lurking too long1
 
There's a small bevel around the edge of handles on the Vesuvius prototypes that makes it comfortable in the hand, and also means that if it falls on a hard surface butt-end first, the bare G10 and not the pearly stuff is more likely to take the impact. I haven't tried leaning into a Vesuvius the way one might with a Chris Reeve One-Piece, so I don't know if flexing would be a problem. And I wouldn't use the pearly surface as a light-duty hammer, as I've done now and then with bare G10.



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www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
 
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