Vet returns the favor to Hanoi Jane

He shouldn't have run away. I guess if he was going to do this thing, he should have done it, handed a hankerchief (sic) to Jane so she could clean herself off, and in a calm voice explained why he did it.


munk
 
Hanoi Jane is a hated person so far as Vietnam vets are concerned. I don't blame the man though I think he shouldn't have run away. Probably people will stand in line to pay his fine. I know I would.

Ice - Americal Division 1968-1970
 
I think I have to disagree with you munk.

He spat in her face, because she spat in theirs.

He ran away, and what has she been doing all these years?



I heard an interview of her on NPR, (I know I know at a 99.85 on the conservative scale, but I LIKE NPR) and according to her it was a miscaclulation on her part...

(I know I spelled that wrong, or is it spelt....)

Going back to fight with the weedeater...
 
I think she deserves more than being spit on, she cause American Soldiers to be beat and starved to death. :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
45/70,
In what way do you disagree with me? I don't see it.


You and I are uncannily opinionated together. I'd hate the doppleganger to break up.



munk
 
munk said:
He shouldn't have run away. I guess if he was going to do this thing, he should have done it, handed a hankerchief (sic) to Jane so she could clean herself off, and in a calm voice explained why he did it.


munk
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I agree. That would have been a much more powerful statement for sure, but I think his heart was basically in the right place.

For that matter, a discrete phone call to the inevitable media presence beforehand with a polite tip that they may not want to take their cameras off of JF for the next 1/2 hour or so, and the guy would have had (at least) a national audience and lots of support from like-minded vets!

I'm really surprised incidents similar to this haven't happened previously to her, but maybe they have and we (I) just haven't heard about them. (?)

Regards,

Norm

P.S. Wouldn't be surprised if this guy has some sympathetic cops around him. They said he is being charged only with "disorderly conduct", but spitting on someone is technically battery. Wonder if Jane will press charges? Tobacco juice stains are a pure beyotch to get out!
 
You know John Mc Cain who was imprisoned and tortured by the Vietnamese has gone back over and talked to them. And the previous Pope John Paul went to his would be assasins cell and forgave him.

Yet there's people who still hate Jane Fonda for what she did when she was a stupid kid 30 years ago. I guess it shows why we still have wars. Some people hold a grudge forever and can never forgive.
 
hollowdweller said:
You know John Mc Cain who was imprisoned and tortured by the Vietnamese has gone back over and talked to them. And the previous Pope John Paul went to his would be assasins cell and forgave him.

Yet there's people who still hate Jane Fonda for what she did when she was a stupid kid 30 years ago. I guess it shows why we still have wars. Some people hold a grudge forever and can never forgive.
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HD, you are a good man, but she was thirty IIRC - hardly a kid. One of those AAA guns like she posed on hit a certain Navy plane that crashed on landing -- and I have one less First Cousin. He lost all he had or would ever have, and she became a millionaire. I find it hard to forgive. I guess I will leave that to superior authority.
 
There were prisoners beaten because they wouldn't go along with the publicity stunt she and the enemy concocted. Or men were starving and abused inside a compound, while just outside she was telling a camera how decently they were being treated.
She became a Christian, which was apparently part of the reason Turner couldn't take her anymore. She's not all bad of course, but that one period in her life she was awful and she still won't totally renounce it. Not that it would matter to a lot of vets. I understand that. You'd be crazy not to understand that.

In the Mountainess West, away from Denver and the ski lifts and what have you, there is a different America. When weather comes down a mountain that can kill, a story about a man who was the son of God doesn't seem as fantastic as it did on the streets of Hollywood. When you're in the woods, you have a chance for the Great Heart to find you, you can believe it there. And Jane Fonda was honest enough to recognize this, and changed her life. Ted? No way. Ted never got it. Snow kills because you didn't buy a big enough propane heater.






munk
 
I agree with munk. He should not have followed her example by running away.
I don't even think she was worth spitting on, but since I'm not a vet, I'm not going to judge the man. Part of me recoils at a man spitting on a woman, but if anyone deserved it, it was her.
It's too bad our government was so traumatized by the Hollywood backlash over McCarthy that Fonda was never prosecuted for giving succor to the enemy.
 
I would like to hear the real story about the event.....ya know....somehow I am suspicious that he actually "ran away"....all the reports I have seen seem to tell us how gracious and calm Jane was.

I bet he just spit on her and walked away.

Regardless, he reached instant god-like status in my book....like a buddy of mine who farted in Bill Clinton's chair... :D I just fell to the ground and bowed!
 
Jane Fonda is a communist traitor bitch who deserves to burn in hell for what she did.

Like many rich elitists, she is trying to "re-write" history so that her memory is well received. As long as one Viet Nam Vet breathes air that will NEVER happen! :mad:
 
munk,

In my mind JF literally aided the enemy. The enemy of this nation was given propaganda to decrease the will of the American people to continue what was already an unpopular war (remember I'm 35. The war was over while I was in grade school). To me it appears that she intended to use them for a publicity stunt. But she got used much more effectively than she used. I wonder how much of that was her former husband (Tom Hyden? some war protester from the day) WE can agree to disagree about that as you will.

Figuratively, she went to Vietnam and spat in the faces of the men there, and that had been there, and that would go there. Then she left that country and came back to the states. Where she has been running away from her actions ever since.

If the guy in the story ran away. Then he repeated her figurative actions literally. I like that, kind of a small morality lesson for the daughter one day. (based on the idea of what goes around comes around).

If he didn't then I suppose in a way it is another type of lesson, Do what you feel you have to do, stand your ground and pay the price.

Overall I like the first best. The second fits with my often retold to employees (mostly the younger ones) "You can be whatever you want, just be aware of the price that you will pay."

But I like the first one the best. I think it could teach a perfect lesson to us all.
 
I love that he did this!

heard an interview of her on NPR, (I know I know at a 99.85 on the conservative scale, but I LIKE NPR) and according to her it was a miscaclulation on her part...
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I like it too. Have you listed to Daniel Shore's editorials?! Not exactly conservative in my book--quite the opposite most of the time I thought. In fact I may be naive, but I thought they did a good job with their coverage overall. Maybe because I lean towards conservative myself ;)
 
MauiRob said:
I like it too. Have you listed to Daniel Shore's editorials?! Not exactly conservative in my book--quite the opposite most of the time I thought. In fact I may be naive, but I thought they did a good job with their coverage overall. Maybe because I lean towards conservative myself ;)
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I love Daniel Shore!! What I like about him is that he is old enough to remember history. He did a great tribute to Frank Zappa when he died. Apparently Zappa was a big fan and was toying with the idea of starting some sort of an educational thing and using Shore.

He also did a great commentary once on what it was like when the country was going in the same direction as it is today, and how great it was to see Roosevelts New Deal come along. He was old enough to actually remember the depression.

I love Public Radio, especially "This American Life" and "Justice Talking", two of my favorite shows. Also enjoy Prarie Home Companion and Selected Shorts.
 
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