VG-10 Chem ?

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A. G. Russell

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Can't lay my hands on the make up of VG-10 and am up against deadline for my copy.

Can someone please let me know what the percentages for this steel are?

Many thanks,

A. G.
 
Carbon .95-1.05; chromium 14.5-15.5; cobalt 1.3-1.5; manganese .5; molybdenum .9-1.2; phosphorous .3; vanadium .1-.3.
 
Heck A.G.,

Most people would believe a pioneer like you anyway...
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Ed has it right...and I like it.

Steve
 
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Heck A.G.,

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Thanks Steve, and many thanks to Ed as well.

I think that folks believe me because I have spent almost 40 years trying to get it right.

all the best, A. G.
 
I think the Phosphorus is only .03% (not .3).
There is also .60% Silicon. This is off my Spyderco reference card. The card's phosphorus number is more in line with the most other alloys as well.
 
Who cares? It cuts like a demon and holds a great edge. That's all that matters. Seriously, check the chart at Spyderco.

Paul
 
I checked the Spyderco chart, but it does not look to be very accurate. It lists CPM3V, but shows it to have NO Vanadium. Other steels(W1,A2,L6,420 modified and 425 modified, etc.) are listed as containing Vanadium. I have never seen these steels listed anywhere as containing Vanadium. What's with the inconsistancies?

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I checked my reference, which was the Spyderco site, and it does say .3 percent phosphorous as well as .6 percent silicon (must have missed that). There seem to be small variations from chart to chart; maybe that just reflects reality as probably no two steel batches are exactly the same. But VG-10 cuts like no other stainless I've come across, and it holds up well in comparison to Carbon V, an excellent carbon steel IMHO. Besides Spyderco, Terry Primos has an excellent series of pages on steel compositions at http://www.shreve.net/~primos/steelcmp.htm.
 
Hmm, haven't visited there for a while... I got the same message. Maybe Terry will re-surface and let us know what's up. He had some really good stuff on alloys, various steel classification methods, etc.
 
I do see a fair bit of variation on the net for phosphorus content of VG-10. The number I gave above is from a typeset card I picked up at the Spyderco Outlet store. I figured it was probably proofed before printing, so might be more reliable than their website. I figure Sal should know, since they make several knives out of VG-10.

To double check I looked on the Fallkniven website, since VG-10 is their current primary alloy. They also say that the phosphorus content is .03%.

http://www.fallkniven.com/a1f1/f1_en.htm

 
I am sure A.G. Russell knows how to use the search function. I would think there is a reason why he asked the opinion/help of other forumites too. I do not know what was his intention but my otherwise limited experience convinced me that a lot of information available on the net is not necesserily correct or precise enough. Steel composition is frequently published only roughly and there could be many variants slightly differing in composition but selled under the same name. Some companies request specific modifications too when ordering their steel stocks.
 
From previous discussions with AG I believe that he is releasing products with VG-10 very soon. It sounds like he wanted to get the right composition in his printed catalog which needs some lead time. I'm hopeful that we will soon see his Deer Hunter model hunting knife in VG-10 (and maybe D-2 at the same time).
 
Nice to see VG-10 catching on... I think Spyderco was the first with its Moran blade, then Fallkniven. Edge holding of my F1 is superb, and for some reason this steel seems to have a good 'bite' to it.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by littleknife:
I am sure A.G. Russell knows how to use the search function. I would think there is a reason why he asked the opinion/help of other forumites too. I do not know what was his intention but my otherwise limited experience convinced me that a lot of information available on the net is not necesserily correct or precise enough. Steel composition is frequently published only roughly and there could be many variants slightly differing in composition but selled under the same name. Some companies request specific modifications too when ordering their steel stocks.</font>
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I hope that the information was correct, it will appear in the Fall Catalog of Knives. I did search for VG-10 and found it mentioned but never could find the chem make up.

thanks much for all the help. New Folder in VG-10 will go out to our e-members next week.

A. G.
 
An A.G.Russell knife (especially a fixed blade,hint,hint)in VG-10 will be a must have for any serious knife user.Hope that's true about the Deer Hunter.

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