Vinnie a Strider dealer?

Spark

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We got several emails about Vinnie selling knives,
I just recieved some new Striders in:
I have the following models in stock ready to ship:
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Needless to say, if he is buying Striders at wholesale, and reselling them, he's a dealer. Dealers are not allowed to sell as individuals on this site. I need to know ASAP so that I can take the appropriate action

Kevin
 
Hey,
As far as anyone here is concerned, Vince is my brother.

As far as money is concerned, he does not, and has not sold Strider Knives for profit.

Maybe you should have asked this question BEFORE kicking him off the forum.

Now that we are all starting to waste man hours every day reading and dealing with whining, namecaling and moaning about what somebody else is or isn't, I for one am getting very tired of all this. If anyone else here agrees and feels the same way I do regarding this, here's a thought:
This forum is obviously a business and should be run like one. I know of several events that have been judged with the "it's my forum attitude" and regardless of anyone's opinions on WHO is right, I challenge you all to focus on WHAT is right.
Put aside all the personal drool about who you are or who or what you think someone else is. Act on this forum as you would if all involved parties were in the same room where both word AND deed could exist. Where the potential sentence for rude behavior would be an ass whipping vs. this infectuous forum mucus we are reading more and more of while trying to enjoy ourselves.
The forums can be both, a great place for business and pleasure as well as a place for internet chickenshit attitudes that only exist while alone with a modem. I'm sure it is safe to say we are all tired of the latter and the consequences for them will be catastrophic for this forum.
Therefore my idea is that everyone participating here be responsible and offer a little bit of their time to Mr. Kevin (our host). Upon his feeling the need to ban someone from participating here, which has hurt more than it has helped, I propose he post a question regarding his situation and answers be returned promptly via private email to his adx.
These replies will be business only, and will give Mr. Kevin a "jury" with constructive ideas that come from a group of opinions vs. a single opinion. The final word will belong of course to our host.
I will be happy to commit to donating my time to this forum for this purpose and my opinions will be based on what is right, not who is right.
I am posting this again under "A Callenge" so that it will be read by more of our people.
Thanks for your time.
Duane Dwyer
 
That's all I needed to hear. If he's not buying at wholesale, then turning around and selling at retail, he isn't a dealer. If you guys say this, it is so.

You have to look at it from my point of view as well. First off - banning is not irreversable. When a moderator or myself bans someone, it's as simple as flipping a switch. The light can come on or go off in a second.

Second - when we turn off someones posting abilities for something like this I send them an email asking for an explanation so I can make a more informed decision. Until Duane posted this, I'd sent 3 emails back and forth to Vinnie, without getting an answer that definately put him on one side or another. To Vinnie's credit, he was uniformly polite and willing to work with me through this - I just wasn't getting the answers I needed. The last email I sent him asked him point blank if he was getting knives at wholesale and turning around and reselling them - though I haven't gotten a reply yet, I trusted that I would get one come morning.

Third - I am the final authority when it comes to banning someone permenantly. In this case, my moderators alerted the other moderators by linking to his thread in the Back End forum (where we discuss these sorts of things. The consensus was, "If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck". Words like "just in" and "in stock, ready to ship" immediately trigger alarms for our For Sale moderators, who's job responsibilities include monitoring for dealers posing as individuals.

When this happens, we move the threads, turn of the profile's posting abilities, and contact the person in question. We turn them off first because in the past we've had several individuals get notice that we have questions for them, then attempt to sell many, many knives before their ads get yanked for good.

Again, this was not a permanent ban at this point - Vinnie and I were still discussing things. Since you've vouched for him Duane, I don't think there needs to be any more discussion.

Kevin
 
Vinnie Got banned?!?

Man, given the respect that I have heard from Mick and Duane in reference to this man, I believe you should have extended every benefit of the doubt to him. While banning isn't permanent, it is still the ultimate slap in the face in here.

I don't know Mr. Palucci. To my knowledge, we've never crossed paths. But everything I have heard/read in reference to him bespeaks a man of integrity. In my mind, this was not the right thing to do without absolute confirmation. You could have just moved his post to another forum if you had doubts.

Spark, I know you are taking a lot of heat from all corners. And I'm as guilty as many others here in making suppositions and assumptions based on one-sided info in the TAD affair. But please don't get to be too quick to ban folks. You're the man in charge here and you're going to take heat when things don't go the way people believe they should. All in all you do great job - just try to keep in mind that <i>"moderate"</i> is the operative word in "<i>moderator</i>".

I will now proceed to butt out.
 
Kampfjaeger - unfortunately, with over 70 forums and 12000+ members, I don't know everyone's name by sight. :eek: Prior to my moderators bringing Vinnie's name to my attention earlier this evening, I'd never heard of him. :p Which is why, as I'm sure you read above, we discuss things, and then take appropriate action.

Like I said before - Duane's word is good enough for me that Vinnie is on the level. I've already sent him an email letting him know that he's back on, and giving my apologies for the inconvenience. :) In addition, the threads in question were moved back from the Back End to the Knives For Sale forums. Though it was an inconvenience, it was a temporary one, and everything should be right as rain again.

Just another example of the system working - and that I'm not such an authoritarian, disciplinarian, hard ass with "my way or the highway" as the only options. :D
 
"Can't we all just get along?". I say that we all get together and beat Rodney King to a pulp, steal his crack money and buy Strider and Mayo knives for everyone in these threads. Can mine be that TKa from TAD?
 
Hey,
Palucci's a good guy. Will help a brother day or night. A loyal and honorable patriot.
Well done Mr. Kevin, doing the right thing isn't always easy. Thanks.
Duane Dwyer
 
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