Vista sucks! Need help

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I bought my wife an iphone. I cannot get the drivers to install so her computer can talk to the phone. I spent 2 hours on the phone with the apple vista specialist. He has no clue. His only suggestion was wiping my hard drive and installing xp. Help?
Terry
 
Here is an article that deals with that problem. Looks like when you install Itunes, you have to turn off Vista's User Access Control. Read the article, do what it says, reinstall the latest Itunes version and it should work.

http://cdevroe.com/notes/vista-iphone/

Good Luck!

Johnny:thumbup:
 
ipods used to have this problem with xp.

shut down your pc. unplug it from the wall. throw it out the window and get a mac.

vista sucks and that specialist you called is a moron. the drivers probably don't install because of an interfering device or program or the source you're installing from is corrupted. the fact that his position exists means you don't need xp. you shoulda told him that and asked for a supervisor.

i say get a mac and partition the hard drive to also run windows natively or just keep the two computers separate. the mini runs the price of two or three nice knives.
 
well, vista does have some gay features, for example, autocad does not work with it.

but on the up side, it is a lot nicer if you have the good hard drives.
 
I have been considering a Mac for a while, but given the problems people have had upgrading to their newest OS, Leopard, I can't really say they are having any better luck than Microsoft in going from XP to Vista. Don't want to start a Mac/PC flaming war, just thought it was interesting that they both are having the same kinds of problems with upgrades...now about Ubuntu Linux.....hmmm

Johnny:)
 
Johnny,
It worked! On my system it is called User Account Control. Thanks a million. I started an information securtiy company with a guy and all he worked in was open BSD or linux. he just switche to macs. I guess they are like cars and trucks, don't buy the first ones. Funny i got an answer on bladeforums before the apple phone forum. Smartest group on the net seems to hang out here. Thanks again.
Terry
 
I'm really glad I could help out. I know that when my computers have problems, it can ruin my day, week, etc!

Johnny
 
well, vista does have some gay features, for example, autocad does not work with it.
Oopsie! :foot:




Running Vista and AutoCAD 2008 here just fine. :thumbup:


;)





With older versions, you may be able to get away with right-clicking the program icon and selecting "Run as Administrator"...that worked for me until I got 2008.
 
Don't expect Service Pack 1 for Vista to be a magic bullet either...

http://www.news.com/Windows-XP-outshines-Vista-in-benchmarking-test/2100-1016_3-6220201.html?tag=nefd.top

" Vista's first service pack, to be released early next year, is intended to boost the operating system's performance. However, when Vista with the Service Pack 1 (SP1) beta was put through benchmark testing by researchers at Florida-based software development company Devil Mountain Software, the improvement was not overwhelming, leaving the latest Windows iteration outshined by its predecessor.

Vista, both with and without SP1, performed notably slower than XP with SP3 in the test, taking over 80 seconds to complete the test, compared to the beta SP3-enhanced XP's 35 seconds. "
 
I was reading somewhere earlier today, maybe on the COMODO Pro Firewall forums, that Winders wuz fixin to come out with a Service Pak 1 pretty soon.
Helluvait is that Windows is also coming out with a new Service Pak 3 for XP which is supposed to make it even better and considerably faster. There may be even more folks returning to Windows XP.:rolleyes: :D ;)
 
I was reading that only windows Millenium ( a total dog of an OS ) has a worse take up than Vista. All in all I would say that stay away from Vista for the moment unless you have a real need to go down that road.
 
Background:

i have been working in the computer tech industry for the past 3 years.

i have been running windows since dos and i must say that of all the releases out there for windows i like xp professional the best.

that said im actually not a windows xp user at all, i just use it when dealing with customer computers (i.e. repairs, upgrades, diagnostics). i have been running ubuntu linux since 6.06 and stopped at 7.10. now running a mac osx with leopard 10.5.1 (i waited to upgrade from tiger until the 10.5.1 update was released)

On to vista:

Windows vista is by far one of the toughest operating systems i've had to deal with. as Moff8 points out, Windows ME would be the only OS worse then Vista. the use and function of the OS in my opinion seems flawed in that administrator permission is required for almost every action which is performed. Also, previous functionality such as Hp's built in webcam for their laptops has been discontinued in Vista (you are required to search through Hp's driver and support website and track down the fix). Running bench tests between an XP and Vista on machines running the same hardware shows the obvious differences in performance. If the visualizations of Vista is what you are interested in (i.e. the appealing asthetics) it is possible to download "vista transformation" pack and combine that with yahoo widgets (both free; vista transformation pack edits system files so use at your own risk).

About Microsoft:

Microsoft pisses me off in that the pc games and software which are now being released are being released as Vista only formats. this will eventually force all/most users who require those softwares or want to play those games to upgrade to the vista system. big box retailers (i.e. futureshop, bestbuy, staples, circuit city) have removed all XP systems from their shelves and restocked them with vista systems limiting the general consumers (ie. average users who dont get custom built pc's) purchase options to systems which run vista. This eventually will cause the phasing out of other systems to Vista.

Alternatives:

Apple is the most common alternative to Windows which offers ease of use and compatibility. However, the one gripe about Apple is that they have a monopoly over the Apple based systems which are released. This results in a high cost of hardware as well as software for their systems.

Ubuntu, that famous FREE, open source operating system which allows even new linux users an alternative OS to use. It comes standard with synaptic package manager which allows your to search for and browse programs which you need. Also in the applications menu it has a program called Add/remove programs which provides a list of free, common softwares which are used by users in ubuntu. Automatix is also available which helps install 3rd party software for your system however i've been told that it affects system stability.

PCLINUXOS, was apparently designed to make the transition from Windows to Linux easier by creating an interface which is similar to the average pc users experience. i havent tested it myself but i believe it comes in a livecd format which will let you play with it before installing.

Iphone Issue:

Glad to see that the issue has been fixed.

"I spent 2 hours on the phone with the apple vista specialist. He has no clue. His only suggestion was wiping my hard drive and installing xp."

this suggestion that was made to you is a common one made by over-the-phone tech support peoples for companies. alot of these people are not technically certified and ask you questions which have answers stored in a data-base. they tell you the "wipe the drive" suggestion only when they're totally lost or tired of talking to you (you talked to him on the phone for 2 hours).

the suggestion to format your drive back to XP is not one which should be taken or suggested lightly. many systems now adays do not come with driver sets for you to load XP back onto, rather they only develop a set of drivers for vista again forcing you to stick with it. it is possible to track down a set of drivers from the specific manufacturers website for each piece of hardware in your system or try to run the system running very general XP drivers which come with the system.

as for your next computer system, a mac is a nice choice to go with however many people return their units because they simply cant get used to it (i've had 3 people over the past year return one because it lacked a right click; after explaining to them that it can be configured on a mouse they decided to give the mac another shot)

Good luck with your Vista troubles, hopefully you wont have them again.

p.s. Sorry for the semi-rant on your thread.

Cheers

JC
 
Thanks for the info JC. Maybe one day the industry will develpl one standard and we all can live happily ever after. Dream on!
Terry
 
I have been considering a Mac for a while, but given the problems people have had upgrading to their newest OS, Leopard, I can't really say they are having any better luck than Microsoft in going from XP to Vista. Don't want to start a Mac/PC flaming war, just thought it was interesting that they both are having the same kinds of problems with upgrades...now about Ubuntu Linux.....hmmm

I'm not going to bother upgrading as long as OSX Tiger does everything I need it to. That and I won't be out the extra cash. :D

I tried Ubuntu once, and it wasn't remarkably user friendly, even after perusing online documentation for some time. I couldn't get any connection to the internet and couldn't get new applications to install. I decided I'd rather spend more time using my computer than learning how to use it, which is basically why I ended up with a Mac Mini.
 
The big problem I have is the number of PC games I have. I don't have any real desire to spend bib bucks on a console gaming system. Vista is just plain lousy. What's the point of having different levels of access (admin, standard user, etc.) if every bloody thing you do requires admin rights. We're wrestling with this whole mess here at work as we try to get our products working on Vista. Thank heaven our customers aren't in any big hurry to upgrade.
 
Vista is too new......I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Too much trouble unless you are Computer Guru.
 
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