Voyager XL trigger

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Hy guys
Two years ago I owned the Voyager XL, especially as last chance in case of sd. Fortunately I needn't to use it till now. So, my question is, can those guys, who use this folder anyhow, let me know, if it can happen with easy, that the trigger of the tri ad lock system unlocks the blade accidentily? What I mean is, that usually one has to push the button really hard to get the blade into the unlocked position. But what's when you work with the knife, maybe when using it in the woods or in other cases? As one has to grip the handle hard, I'm a little bit afraid of getting hurt when this blade will get out of the fixed position.
Any experiences with such an issue?
 
I HAVE HAD A HOLDOUT II FOR 3 YEARS AND IT NEVER OPENED BY ITSELF. I DON'T THINK IT IS POSSIBLE.

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Unless you have a large tumor in the center of your palm or are using a very unconventional grip, the TriAd will not engage during use due to grip pressure. You have to apply hard, DIRECT pressure on a single point to disengage the lock. Since the pressure of your hand is distributed along the length of the handle, it is impossible for the lock bar to receive the amount of pressure it needs to disengage.

Short answer: No, it will not disengage just by holding it tightly.
 
MountainPeek said:
Unless you have a large tumor in the center of your palm or are using a very unconventional grip, the TriAd will not engage during use due to grip pressure. You have to apply hard, DIRECT pressure on a single point to disengage the lock. Since the pressure of your hand is distributed along the length of the handle, it is impossible for the lock bar to receive the amount of pressure it needs to disengage.

Short answer: No, it will not disengage just by holding it tightly.
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+1 disengaging a triad lock takes deliberate action.
 
Fixed blade in a sheath would be my first option...:thumbup:

But, if you're gonna go with a folding knife, you'd be hard pressed to find one better than a Cold Steel with TriAD lock system.

Not only is it STRONG when fully deployed, but it requires a quite deep pressing of the lockbar to fully disengage the mechanism when closing.

Some users complain that TriAD's have to be depressed harder, further, & more fully than other backlocks....but I count the "difficulty" level to disengage a good thing <and sounds like you would too>. :D

But I can not ever recall hearing/reading of anyone complaining that TriAD's closed with accidental / incidental contact. :confused:

The only folding blade I'd personally recommend over a factory Cold Steel w/ TriAD for blade security,
would be a custom Andrew Demko AD10-- got one of them too! :thumbup::D:thumbup:
 
If they were prone to failure you'd see a thousand videos about it.
 
Thanks for all helpful answers. Yes, I have supposed, that's it's nearly impossible to disengage the mechanism accidentally when using it in a normal manner. About what I was worried about a bit was the situation, when using an extended grip and the thumb will come automatically in the near of the trigger. I will say that it hasn't to do with failure, only it's the nature of folders, as they aren't fixed blades. And I don't mean, of course, that it might open by itself.
I have many CS products for over 20 years and I love them all.
 
yep, very hard to impossible to accidentally unlock it. that said still be very aware of what you are doing when you are doing it. complacency can cause great injuries.
 
Very hard to accidentally unlock. However I can squeeze my Code 4 and loosen up the lock to the point of vertical blade play.
 
oxman198 said:
However I can squeeze my Code 4 and loosen up the lock to the point of vertical blade play.
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Please excuse, but as a German I don't unterstand the content of this sentence completely. What does Code 4 mean? Is it another folder? And to loosen up the lock
to the docribed point - it's a joke, isn't it?
 
The Code 4 is another Cold Steel folder. I meant that when I squeeze the handle of the knife, the meat of my palm contacts the lock bar release and depresses it to the point of getting some vertical blade play. But, I dont think it would be possible to completely disengage the lock by just squeezing the handle.
 
So if you feel that the release gets a bit depressed, and the blade is getting a little play, it's still really impossible that the blade gets totally unlocked. I hope that I have understood that correct.
 
I agree with oxman. I can do the same to my Tri-Ad folders (squeeze them hard enough in a certain way to cause minor up and down blade play), but I don't see any way you could possibly fully unlock the knife this way. As also said above, the lock bar on a Tri-Ad requires very firm pressure and must be pressed very far into the handle before the blade will totally unlock.
 
I've had problems with pocket lint and dirt not allowing the lock to engage on my XL Voyager


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But it never failed me while engaged, and I find it almost impossible to accidentally depress...
 
Sosa said:
If they were prone to failure you'd see a thousand videos about it.
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Lordy isn't that the truth. And the haters that hover in the background here, until they smell blood then move in for a bite, would be on it like flies on lawn sausage.......That's one of the things that I really like about the lock. Some guys can barely open them until broken in. The odds of it accidentally opening are extremely remote. If that isn't assurance enough to let you sleep, I suggest a smaller collapsible baton if you really feel that threatened.
 
So, finally I'm convinced and glad.
This folder with an 8 inch blade - hoping, CS will think about it. Germany could be a promising market.
Cu
Holger
 
One final word. After the thread has finished, I checked my other voyager, an old version with a 5 inch blade and a belt clip of the same material as the handle, not mounted, all one piece. This knife I like also much, but didn't use it often. That's the reason why I noticed it but now and not before, that with this model I have that problem, which I have tried to explain here with the latest version.
When grabbing the handle in that manner that the thumb is at the same side as the edge, it can happen that the middle finger for example presses the button a bit and that can be enough to unlock the blade. Maybe you have other experiences, but think it can happen easily. So for sd no option any longer. Without this thread I wouldn't have checked that. So another good result, thanks again.
 
Dude the xl voyager is one of the best SD knives out there. It wont come unlocked. If you have any doubts check out some testing videos on youtube where Demko hangs 480lbs to the back of a voyager and it doesnt fail. I would venture to say I would trust my life to it if it was all I had in the woods without a fixed blade, its that strong. Get one. I have my third on the way, the clip point version to add to my Vaquero and beloved tanto.
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