W.1.4116 steel...What is it comparable to?

[Cosmic Superchunk]

I picked up a very nice and very well made Italian made Beretta stag handled folder today. Anyway, on the blade it reads: INOX W.1.4116, but I'm wondering what W.1.4116 is comparable to? 440A, 440C?

Pic is from BerettaUSA:

Unfortunately, Beretta's site doesn't list the type of steel, but I was told it's a German steel. There are 2 stag handled models in Beretta's catalogue which appear to be made by Falcon Cutlery for Beretta judging by the similarity of this Falcon folder I found at CutleryToGo

Also, any Italianos out there who know if Falcon has a website?

 

[J-Tal]

Here is a steel chart with 1.4116 listed. Looks like a low end knife steel.

http://www.pizzini.at/info_stahl.htm

 

[frank k]

1.4116 is basically equivilant to 425M.



- Frank

 

[Cosmic Superchunk]

J-Tal & Frank, thanks for the info.

 

[Donald]

Hi Cosmic,

If Frank is right, that it is "basically equivalent" to 425M, and it would appear similar in the chart to which J-Tal posted a link, all things being equal, you should be happy enough with it. Of course heat treatments and even slight differences in steel compositon could have a significant effect, but for what its worth, I have a Gerber Paul knife with 425M steel and I have been reasonably happy with its performance. Perhaps because it has some Vanadium.

A knife retailer I was speaking with, a long time ago, said he has heard the it argued either way, but felt 425M was decent. It may not be the best steel I have, but it has performed OK. I would say it holds an edge better than a SAK for instance. I have never had trouble with it staining or rusting. Knock on wood...or is that steel.....? That may be one reason it is used. Enjoy the attractive knife.

These steels may be in the realm of mid-range or upper mid-range steels where they are still relatively easy to stamp out (as opposed to upper end requiring laser or water jet cutting) and to work, as opposed to the level where all those activities rapidly get more expensive. Perhaps someone will post who has a more exact idea.

 

[Cosmic Superchunk]

Thanks for the info Donald. The only knife I own with 425M steel is a Gerber Applegate Combat Folder and I've been pleased with it as well. Out of the box, my new Beretta folder was not as sharp as Japanese made Berettas, but a few minutes a ceramic stick fixed that nicely.