Waki Weight?

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Someone with a scale drop the knowledge bomb on me! How much do these weigh (Micarta/G10) or both would be GRRREAT! :D
 
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Per Eric:



Rodent Waki (G10)….. = 33 ounces; 0.195” thick; 17.0” blade; 27.625” oal
Rodent Waki (micarta) = 31 ounces; 0.195” thick; 17.0” blade; 27.625” oal


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Confirmed on my digital scale:

Micarta Waki (unsharpened and unmodified, with coating still on - as from Swamp Rat): 31.25 ounces.

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Per Eric:



Rodent Waki (G10)….. = 33 ounces; 0.195” thick; 17.0” blade; 27.625” oal
Rodent Waki (micarta) = 31 ounces; 0.195” thick; 17.0” blade; 27.625” oal


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Confirmed on my digital scale:

Micarta Waki (unsharpened and unmodified, with coating still on - as from Swamp Rat): 31.25 ounces.

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Thank you! I searched last night with fruitless results. I appreciate you digging it out.
 
No problem. You're welcome.

I am another who really appreciates weights and specs.

I REALLY WISH Jerry would post specs when introducing knives.

Pictures are GREAT, but they do not tell the whole story.

For me, the specs can be as important a factor towards a buying decision as the steel used.

I try to keep an archive of all that I have owned over the years and others as I come across reliable sources of relevant knives.

For the Waki, it is a bit harder to have comparable blades to compare with, but for most other sub-12" blades, the past references for comparisons and SPECS on new knives to compare with help me a lot.

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No problem. You're welcome.

I am another who really appreciates weights and specs.

I REALLY WISH Jerry would post specs when introducing knives.

Pictures are GREAT, but they do not tell the whole story.

For me, the specs can be as important a factor towards a buying decision as the steel used.

I try to keep an archive of all that I have owned over the years and others as I come across reliable sources of relevant knives.

For the Waki, it is a bit harder to have comparable blades to compare with, but for most other sub-12" blades, the past references for comparisons and SPECS on new knives to compare with help me a lot.

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+1 :thumbup: If your list is already compiled in text, you might consider posting a thread with it. I for one, agree with you but am newer to the game and don't have the information. A list like that is worth its WEIGHT in gold :D Thanks again!
 
What I have is just a Word Doc that I add to and update. Nothing fancy. I initially had it in a "Table" format, but I couldn't copy and paste info to the forum threads very easily. With simple lines in the Word doc, I just copy and paste as I need... since I often compare and many people often ask specs. Unfortunately, I didn't start this list until after I had already sold a handful of my earlier blades. And there are a handful of Swamp Rat Knives I just never owned. Sadly, the Rat Daddy is one of those, along with Rat Tail, SAR Rat, Mini Mojo, M9CG and some others. And then I just didn't think to weigh certain knives before selling - such as: Rat Warden, Rat Shaker and the Rat Mastiff. So, I am missing confirmation of true weights on certain knives. I have filled in some weights and specs as people have posted them or as I have confirmed them. My old scale was only accurate to .5 ounce and rounded up as it was a postage scale. My newer digital scale is much more accurate to .05 ounce. But, some knives I no longer have to re-confirm. In any event, some specs vary per knife anyway. I have seen variances of .25 ounces or a fraction of an inch here and there on same designs. It happens.

My list contains various Scrap Yard knives I have owned for comparison and Various Busse knives for comparison as well.



This is what I have so far:

Skeletons:
Rat Shaker…………… = ??? ounces; .25” thick; 2.5” blade; 5.0” oal
Rat Shaker II….…... = ??? ounces; .25” thick; 2.5” blade; 5.0” oal
Swamp Rat Warden = 2.2 ounces; 3.0” – 3.125” blade ; 7.0” oal

Rat Tail……………….. = ??? ounces; .1875” thick 3.75” blade; 7.75” oal


Paul’s Ratchet…………… = ??? ounces; .25” thick; 2.9375” blade; 9.25” oal
Rat Trap Folder (S30V) = ??? ounces; .1875” thick; 3.9” blade; 9” oal


Mudders:
SS4....................... = 5.5 ounces; .200" thick ; 4.25" blade; 9" oal
Bog Dog (D2).......... = 5.0 ounces; .140" thick ; 4.75" blade; 9.56" oal
Bog Dog (SR-101)…. = 5.25 ounces; ??? slightly thicker; 4.75” blade; 9.56” oal
S5CG……………………… = 6.75 ounces; .185” thick; 5.125” blade; 10.0625” oal
S5LE…………….………… = ??? ounces; ???” thick; 5.125” blade; 10.0625” oal
Mud Puppy (LE)……… = 5.0 ounces; .185” thick; 3.25” blade; 8.25” oal
ScrapMuk……………….. = ??? ounces; .1875” thick; 4.5” blade; 9.125” oal


Bandicoot…………….....…. = 5.5 ounces; .1875” thick; 4.5” blade; 9.0” oal
Howler (2nd gen-Res-C) = 5.5 ounces; .1875" thick; 4.5" blade; 9" oal
Yard Keeper LE............ = 7.5 ounces; .268" thick; 4.5" blade; 9" oal
DMCG........................ = 9.0 ounces; .270" thick; 5.25" blade; 9.75" oal


Vexillarius….....…….. = 5.25 ounces; .14” thick; 3.75” blade (from front of choil); 8.25” oal
Rat Hunter…………….. = 7.0 ounces; .1875” thick; 3.75” blade; 8.5” oal
Safari Skinner (D2).. = ??? ounces; .125” thick; 3.75” blade; 8.75” oal
SAR Rat………………….. = ??? ounces; .25” thick; 4.5” blade; 9.5” oal


HCLE 3.5" Regular Release G10........ = ??? ounces; .170” thick; 3.5” blade; 8.25” oal
HCLE 3.5” blade (2008 SE micarta)... = 6.25 ounces; .170” thick; 3.5” blade; 8.25” oal
HCLE 4.0” blade (2008 SE micarta)... = 6.5 ounces; .170” thick; 4.0” blade; 8.75” oal
Two-Tone Ganzaaa Dog Skinner (D2) = 7.5 ounces; .150” thick; 4.25” blade; 9.4375” oal
Dog Skinner D2 (black micarta)........ = Probably same specs as Two-Tone Dog Skinner (???)


HRLM (micarta)............ = 9.0 ounces; .190" thick; 4.13" blade; 9.3" oal
Desert Jack ............. = 10.0 ounces; .175” thick; 6.0” blade; 11.25” oal
Ratmandu (G10)........ = 11.0 ounces; .189" thick; 5.3125" blade; 10.5" oal
Ratmandu (micarta)... = 10.0 ounces; .189" thick; 5.3125" blade; 10.5" oal


M6........................ = 16.2 ounces; .235" thick; 6" blade; 11.68" oal
Mini Mojo……………….. = ??? ounces; ???” thick; 6.875” blade; 12.625” oal


Scrapper 6 LE.............. = 12.7 ounces; .268" thick; 6.25" blade; 11.44" oal
Camp Tramp................ = 14.5 ounces; .236" thick; 7.325" blade; 12.5" oal
Yard Guard.................. = 16.0 ounces; .277" thick; 7.25" blade; 12.4" oal
SOD (Son of Dogfather) = 15.7 ounces; .2??” thick; 7.5” blade; 12.5” oal
SODLE…………………………. = ??? ounces; .25” thick; 7.5” blade; 12.5” oal


Regulator TT (Test Team - Full Flat).... = 14.65 ounces; .333” thick; 7.5” blade; 13.0” oal
Regulator MO (Military overrun - Saber) = 15.8 ounces; .333” thick; 7.5” blade; 13.0” oal


Ratweiler (orig.)…….. = 20.1 ounces; .25” thick; 7.5” blade; 13” oal
Chopweiler - Micarta = 19.1 ounces; .25” thick; 7.5625” blade; 13.1875” oal
Chopweiler – G10….. = 20.5 ounces; .25” thick; 7.5625” blade; 13.1875” oal
M9LE (Full Flat)…….. = 19.35 ounces; .23” thick; 9.125” blade; 14.875” oal
M9CG (Saber Grind). = ??? ounces; ???” thick; 9.125” blade; 14.875” oal
Rat Mastiff…………..… = ??? ounces; .25” thick; 9.75” blade; 15.375” oal
Rat Daddy…………….. = ??? ounces; .25” thick; 10.5” blade; 16.25” oal


Battle Rat……………. = 16.5 ounces; .250” thick; 9.375” blade; 14.4375” oal
Dog Father………….. = 20.1 ounces; .275” thick; 10” blade; 15.125” oal
Dog Father LE…….. = 17.0 ounces; .250” thick; 10.0625” blade; 15.125” oal


Rodent Waki (G10)….. = 33 ounces; 0.195” thick; 17.0” blade; 27.625” oal
Rodent Waki (micarta) = 31 ounces; 0.195” thick; 17.0” blade; 27.625” oal


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A good source for a much more complete list of "Busse" knife specs can be found at BusseCollector.com: http://www.bussecollector.com/catalog/

Just "Some" of the more common Busse knives for comparison:


Cultellus…………….… = 3.7 ounces; .125” thick; 3.5” blade; 8.0” oal
Active Duty…….….. = ??? ounces; .22” thick; 3.5” blade; 7.88” oal
Boss Street……..... = ??? ounces; .22” thick; 4.25” blade; 9.125” oal
Urban Grudge……... = 9.35 ounces; 0.243” thick; 5.375” blade; 10.5” oal
SAR5……………………. = 11.0 ounces; mine 0.200” (stated .1875”), 5.0” blade; 10.0” oal
BATAC-CG…….....… = ??? ounces; .187” thick; 5.0” blade; 10.75” oal
BATAC-LE………….…. = 16.3 ounces; .25” thick; 5.00” blade; 10.75” oal
SJTAC…................ = 13.25 ounces; .187” thick; 6.375” blade; 11.875” oal
Hell Razor………....…. = 14.75 ounces; .1875” thick; 6.625” blade; 12.75” oal (est.)
SARSquatch……..…… = 17.0 ounces; .1875” thick; 7.0” blade; 12.75” oal
Skinny ASH1 G10.... = 15.25 ounces; .1875” thick; 6.4” blade; 12.0” oal
ASH1 – CG………….… = 21.0 ounces; 0.320” thick; 6.4” blade; 12.0” oal
SFNO-LE………...…… = 18.5 ounces; .22” thick; 7.0” blade, 12.75” oal
NMSFNO…………….… = 21.5 ounces; .25” thick; 8.25” blade; 14.0” oal
FSH (full flat grind) = 22.0 ounces; .27” thick; 8.1875” blade; 14.4” oal
HH (Saber grind)... = 23.5 ounces; .27” thick; 8.1875” blade; 14.4” oal

Bushwacker Mistress = 22.0 ounces; .1875” thick; 10.25” blade; 16.25” oal
FBM CG…………….….. = 27.1 ounces; 0.25” thick; 10.0” blade; 16.0” oal
FBM LE………….…….. = 30.0 ounces; 0.312” thick; 10.0” blade; 16.0” oal
FFBM……………………. = 31.4 ounces; 0.32” thick; 10.0” blade; 16.0” oal
NMFBM…………….….. = 29.5 ounces; .25” thick; 11.3125” blade; 17.5” oal
NMFBMLE............. = 32.8 ounces; .275" thick; 11.3125" blade; 17.5" oal

Killa Zilla…………….. = 36.7 ounces; .260” thick; 12.25” blade; 18.75” oal



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If anyone has weights or other specs to fill in that I am missing, I would appreciate the info. And LOVE to update the above! :thumbup: ;)
 
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Someone should sticky that. ;)

Agreed! I like the idea you have of a Wiki style project DWRW. The problem I've had with the Busse themed sites is they're not frequently updated :( If we're able to edit it ourselves, the information will stay current and frequently updated. DWRW, thank you for putting that together, it's a really awesome list. Weight is important to me, and others as well.

If you want to fold these into your list and edit the post, I have a couple:

NMFBM LE……….….. = 32.8 ounces; .275” thick; 11.3125” blade; 17.5” oal
Cultellus............... = 3.8 ounces; .125" thick; 3.25" blade; 8.0" Oal
Swamp Warden weight to add into your specs is 2.2 ounces.
Custom shopt SFNO full flat grind, same specs otherwise is 17.8 ounces
 
If you want to start a new thread with a title of Specs and Weights of Swamp Rat's I will sticky it to the top, then it can be added and edited when the info is available.

Eric
 
I'll let DWRW start a new post with a proper title etc. He's done the footwork, he deserves the credit. Thanks for folding it into the Stickies Eric. Very cool :D
 
Agreed! I like the idea you have of a Wiki style project DWRW. The problem I've had with the Busse themed sites is they're not frequently updated :( If we're able to edit it ourselves, the information will stay current and frequently updated. DWRW, thank you for putting that together, it's a really awesome list. Weight is important to me, and others as well.

If you want to fold these into your list and edit the post, I have a couple:

NMFBM LE……….….. = 32.8 ounces; .275” thick; 11.3125” blade; 17.5” oal
Cultellus............... = 3.8 ounces; .125" thick; 3.25" blade; 8.0" Oal
Swamp Warden weight to add into your specs is 2.2 ounces.
Custom shopt SFNO full flat grind, same specs otherwise is 17.8 ounces



No problem...... I have just been putting this list together for my own purposes and references over the years. From time to time, people have asked for certain comparisons and I have posted "Pieces" of the above list.

If we can have it as a sticky, that would be great. Then people will likely see and hopefully add info to fill in for all to be able to access. :thumbup:
I will start another thread in a few minutes. I have been tweaking the order and arrangement of the comparisons. There really isn't a perfect way to put them in order IMO. But, trying my best.

Thanks for the Warden weight. :thumbup:

I added your NMFBMLE since everybody always seem to want to know the various differences of the big choppers. :thumbup:
And I added the Cultellus. That was a limited Sprint run for last years Blade, but also sold in a few Ganzaaas and apparently some other shows and never a regular release. So, I was reluctant to add it. I want to try to keep the Busse list somewhat simple and broad with the most common releases. But, there are a lot of Cultellus's out there and unique in size, so I added it. Also, I split the difference on the weight you posted for the Cultellus. BusseCollector has the Cultellus listed at 3.625 ounces vs. your 3.8 ounces. It is pretty common to have some subtle differences in weight and I think the handles on those were hand shaped (????). So, I just went with 3.7 ounces.
However, I am not going to add customs, variants and rare and limited runs to the list. So, I did not add your custom SFNO.
I already have the SFNO-LE and the NMSFNO on the list. :thumbup:
 
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I would agree about the variants and customs. There would be an endless chain of additions at that point. Thanks again for putting this together!
 
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