Walmart Fixed blade ABUSE testing (WARNING: LOTS of pics!)

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The purpose of this article is to surmise the “Real-World” utility and survivability of the cheap “junk” knives often encountered in retail chains such as Walmart and Meijers. The three knives we will examine in this three part series are the Bushmaster gut-hook skinner, the Bushmaster 702 skinner, and the Winchester drop-point hunter. It should be noted that the Bushmaster brand of cutlery has no affiliation with the firearm manufacturer, and that Gerber manufactures the Winchester drop-point.

The Test: All knives were submitted to the same battery of tests AFTER mild use, with no re-sharpening.

Step 1: The knives were tested for initial sharpness by slicing off a segment of a water bottle. Each knife was judged on how much effort was needed to cut, and how clean of a cut it left.

Step 2: The knives were tested for edge retention by shaving a solid chunk of hickory wood. Each knife was judged on how much effort was needed to produce clean shavings, and how well it retained its edge afterward.

Step 3: The knives were tested for edge retention and general durability by digging holes in the semi-frozen late February soil. Each knife was judged on how well it retained its edge afterward.

Step 4: Step 2 was repeated, in order to see if the knife had retained a useable edge after digging.

Step 5: The knives were tested for durability by being thrown, full force, at the ground ten times. They were then thrown, full force, at a pile of hickory logs an additional ten times.

On to test number one!



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The subject: $10 Bushmaster gut-hook from Meijers
The steel: God only knows
Handles: Rose wood scales, secured with 3 brass pins
Full tang: YES

Step 1: The knife made a clean, easy slice through the bottle.
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Step 2: The Shavings were fairly easy. The knife shaved a clean, smooth plane without much effort.
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And the shavings:
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Step 3: The knife was used to dig this hole, in a similar fashion to a garden trowel. The digging was fairly easy for the first inch or so, but then became more difficult as pebbles and semi-frozen soil was encountered.
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Step 4: The knife was re-tested for sharpness and edge retention by shaving the hickory block yet again. The slices were noticeably more stiff, but still not very difficult. The plane was also slightly rougher.
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Step 5: The knife was thrown, hard, twenty times. Ten strokes were into the ground, and ten into hickory logs. During the process it bounced several times striking several solid objects including a shed, a steel boat trailer, and a chain-link fence. It also made a cool-sounding metallic “clang” on several occasions :P As the final insult, I drove it into another hickory log.
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After the Abuse:
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Notice that the knife did NOT bend!
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The edge, while dulled in several locations, still held a useable utility edge. The scales also received a beating and suffered multiple scratches and a small chip. They DID, however, remain firmly and securely attached to the blade.

* In durability, I give this knife a 7 out of 10: The handles scratched fairly easy.

* In edge-retention, I give this knife a 5 out of 10: It was acceptable, but still not that great.

* In nifty features, I give this knife an 8 out of 10: The Gut-hook is nice, and it has anti-slip serration’s.

Overall: I give this knife a 7 out of 10. It’s good for the price, and makes a good beater-knife, or a good inexpensive knife to put in a kit.

Round two coming, probably tomorrow.
 
And ?
Why ?
I don't understand the point of this " test".
BTW. Who designed the " gut hook" ? Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles ?
 
Blammo said:
And ?
Why ?
I don't understand the point of this " test".
BTW. Who designed the " gut hook" ? Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles ?

The glass is always half empty for you eh? :D Its not a bad test at all to see what these beater knives can/can't do. The relevance of it is to help inform the general public as to what their capabilities are when considering purchase.
 
Interesting work, did the part of the knife which cut the wood after the digging come into heavy contact with the soil? if you have time you might want to comment on the time it takes to reshapen the edges back to optimal.

-Cliff
 
Very interesting with good pictures. Amazing what you can get for $10.
 
Great post.

It's nice to see other than the usual players (we know who they are) "go to town" with a knife to test it. It really adds to the knowledge base.
 
Yes, the same part of the blade that came into contact with the soil was also used for the shaving.

It has been sugested that I modify the testing regiment by addint a battoning session, and a final bottle cut at the end. The additional tests will have these extra steps.

And thanks for the support. I realize that there are plenty of knife snobs who will look down on these tests simply because They dont involve customs :rolleyes: , but The day may come when even THEY may need to use one of these TERRIBLE, AWEFULL, INSIDIOUS pieces of CRAP. :jerkit: In such a situation, Its good to know exactly what you can expect out of such implements. :)
 
Nice test, I recently got a $19.99 "Outdoor Life" drop point at K-Mart and did simliar things to it, was surprised how well it did.

Sometimes lower cost knives can do OK.

Again, nicely done.
 
Let's be honest with one another... We're all knife snobs at heart. We like to feel good about the knives we buy. That means they have to cost a bundle, right? Am I RIGHT? Honestly... what self respecting forum-ite would tote a $10 knife? It's top-of-the-line or nothing for us, right?

Anyway, I have to go pick up some generic formula for the baby. The wife seems to think we need the expensive name brand stuff, but I'm pretty sure it's all the same. See ya all later.
 
Blammo said:
And ?
Why ?
I don't understand the point of this " test".
BTW. Who designed the " gut hook" ? Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles ?
Asked:rolleyes:and answered. :thumbup: :cool:
 
Would you please have a closer look to the edge before, during and after the tests?

Look or feel for any deformations, no matter how small.

Nice test! :thumbup:
 
cool test, please continue your work :thumbup: Don't get set back by critics that say your testing is not scientific. Some "defects" only emerge in "field testing"
 
Interesting tests. Comforting to know that even the less expensive knives could be quite useful in something as serious as self defense.

Thanks for your work, and please post more in the future.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
The "scientific" arguement is horrible misused, that term just means done in a way to produce meaningful information, it isn't an on/off thing, just a matter of degrees. The more time and money you put into something the more precise and accurate you can determine the results.

However if you have to be really careful and precise to disconcern a difference in performance between two knives, how meaningful is this? If the performance difference is not noticable readily in straightforward use, no one carrying the knife will see an advantage obviously so it is hard to argue it is significant.

The precision you should aim for in any measurement is the lowest needed to obtain useful information, you gain nothing by going further, it is a waste of time and money, and neither is infinite, you could be determining something else with the same resources.

It would be interesting to see if a higher end knife actually did any better, especially since some of the work such as digging constantly gets rated as extremely abusive which seems farcial when a $10 knife can do it easily. You might want to add some edge specifics if you can measure them, thickness and angle.

It would also be interesting to see how they do in regular cutting, rope/cardboard or similar, are they just beater class, or can you use them to do a significant amount of cutting.

-Cliff
 
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