Walters undercutter

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Hi, I realize I have photos of this axe on another thread but I really need some more info on this axe, it's really interesting to me because how long the bit is. From the front of the eye to the cutting edge it is 5.5 inches long, thanks I really appreciate any information.

 
Thats unusual NOS example ! Low numbers of those made.
Love the sharpening instruction label.
 
Walters was the originator of factory-made undercutters after a collaboration with west coast users of new-fangled chainsaws sometime in the 1930s (if I recall). The early power saws could not make upwards angle cuts for completing felling notches due to carburetor fuel starvation so the notch saw cuts had to be manually chopped out with a modified axe. Chainsaws became much more capable by the 1950s prompting undercutters to become obsolete and manufacture was discontinued shortly after. Presumably your's is from the early to mid 50s when sales of them petered right out and unsold heads, that weren't tossed, began to accumulate dust on shelves at the backs of forestry supply stores.
Leonard Lee (who passed away recently) founder of Lee Valley Tools in Ottawa has (or had) a beautiful collection of NOS Walters and I would imagine his son Robin, who now runs the whole shebang, might be quite interested in adding a pristine undercutter to the collection if they don't already have one. Canada Museum of Science and Tech also has a magnificent collection of Walters and I don't recall seeing an undercutter in it but those folks only accept donations or issue tax receipts. Myself would love to have one but with the stickers and all on it it would bug me no end not to be able to use it.

Whenever someone posts a picture of an NOS desirable axe that they've found there is often an expression of interest that comes forth from Operator1975 but we haven't heard hide nor hair from him during the past 6 months.
 
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Thanks so much, I don't really need to keep it because I'm only 14 but maybe I'll try and contact lee valley and see if they want it or maybe I'll put it on eBay, thanks.
 
What does NOS stand for?

New Old Stock. Used to describe new, but no longer in production, items. If you own an old Willys MB or Ford GPW (yer iconic WWII army Jeep) for instance you'll discover that there are thousands of NOS parts still available for them despite none of these having been made in the past 50 years.
 
In your guys opinions how much would this axe be worth?

You're not supposed to ask questions such as that here; this forum would quickly degrade into a 'freebie appraisal' site. What you have is definitely collectible and/but of very little use to someone merely seeking a useable chopping tool. This is a perfect example of price being dictated by supply and demand. Previous owner obviously didn't know what to do with it and moved it along to you for peanuts knowing full well you wouldn't have jumped if they had asked $100, or even $25.
 
Oh ok I didn't know I wasn't aloud to ask that question for some reason I thought I just wasn't allowed to advertise what I was selling. Thanks
 
Oh ok I didn't know I wasn't aloud to ask that question for some reason I thought I just wasn't allowed to advertise what I was selling. Thanks

That's OK. Considering how much coin you have invested, this could well become something you ultimately treasure as a unique 'living history' conversation piece. There won't be too many of these kicking around 50 years from now! Take some time to research the origins and purpose of undercutters (this'll get you to delve into power saw evolution and history too) and the story behind Morley Walters foundry; Walters Axe (founded as H Walters & Sons by his Sheffield cutler dad Henry Walters who took over Bytown/Ottawa pioneer Sexton Washburn's axe foundry in Hull, Quebec in 1885). Walters is long gone (the business was folded in 1973) but during the 1950s and early 1960s they were far and away the largest Commonwealth axe maker, producing 1000 axes per day.
 
"producing 1000 axes per day"......and they are still out there in basements and garages and pawn shops and second hand shops...makes you wonder why anyone would pay for any new tool these days especially since the quality probably isn't as good as the old stuff. I've discovered this pawn shop where everything is a buck or two and it's it's all "Made in USA" or "Made in Canada".
 
"producing 1000 axes per day"......and they are still out there in basements and garages and pawn shops and second hand shops...makes you wonder why anyone would pay for any new tool these days especially since the quality probably isn't as good as the old stuff. I've discovered this pawn shop where everything is a buck or two and it's it's all "Made in USA" or "Made in Canada".

Folks today are all about consumerism; relative affordability, shininess and warranty are more important than quality. Plus who has the skills and ability to re-haft an old axe anymore, sharpen it, maintain it or even be appreciative of quality manufacture?
For 6 months 15 years ago I worked in an Ojibway-Cree isolated fly-in community west of Hudson Bay. Every axe I noticed in woodpiles, snow machine toboggans and on 4 wheelers was new or nearly so. It was more convenient to buy a new one at the Band store every time a blade chipped, got dull or the handle broke than it was to try to do something with the old one.
 
I don't know any history of your undercutter but they do go for more money than I'm willing to spend. Yours is a real beauty and will only be more valuable as time goes on, money on the other hand, well...
 
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