Want To Make A Hydraulic Forging Press??

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A C Richards

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I would recommend you getting the book "Build Your Own Hydraulic Forging Press" by Dr James Batson. It is available from the ABS store for $32. It has all the answers to the questions about hydraulic pumps, HP requirements even shear strengths of bolts and I beams. It is a great investment.

Chuck
 
I have to agree completely. I purchased the plans through Don Fogg and Tailored the plans to suit me. Worth every penny.

Shawn
 
I have the book too and agree it's a superb resource.

Unfortunately, not included in the book is the extra time I would need to actually build the thing... I'd love to build a press but my time is short and I may just put in an order with Bowie instead.
 
A C Richards said:
I would recommend you getting the book "Build Your Own Hydraulic Forging Press" by Dr James Batson. It is available from the ABS store for $32. It has all the answers to the questions about hydraulic pumps, HP requirements even shear strengths of bolts and I beams. It is a great investment.

Chuck
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Although I haven't made my press yet I have read the Batson book from cover to cover...........at least 30 times :D One of these days soon, very soon, hopefully I'll put it together.

And I agree Chuck, excellent resource. The only thing that makes it better is Indian Georges addendum. He put together a list of the best places to get all of the parts with the exception of the steel. Part #'s, vendors, etc., for virtually everything needed :thumbup: :thumbup: Thanks IG ;)
 
PARTS LISTING
SUPPLIER PART# DESCRIPTION COMMENTS
NORTHERN 1053-C161 BARNES 2 STAGE PUMP -11GPM
2010-C161 PRINCE STANDARD 4-WAY CONTROL VALVE
4051-C161 7 GALLONS HYDRAULIC OIL TANK MUST CLEAN THE INSIDE WELL
4022-C161 RETURN LINE FILTER
4010-C161 SUCTION STRAINER THIS GOES INTO THE TANK
FITTINGS AND HOSES YOU WILL NEED 3 HI- PRESSURE HOSES AND LOW PRESSURE HOSE FOR THE RETURN.
53606-C161 GLYCERIN FILLED GAUGE 0-3000PSI
SURPLUS CENTER 10-1485 ELECTRIC MOTOR I USE A 3 HP AT 3250 RPMS
09 4954 HYDRAULIC CYLINDER I USE A 4 1/2" BORE X 8" STROKE WITH THE PUMP AND MOTOR SHOULD BE GENERATE 24 TONS

If I built another press I would go with a minimum of a 5" cylinder and H frame, going with a bigger cylinder will slow down the ram speed a little. With the setup above my speed is 2" per second. I have photos on my site in different stages of completion. If anyone has any questions feel free to contact me.;)
PS: Your welcome Dave.:D
 
Thanks IG That can be a big help. I agree with the 5" or larger cyl. I personally feel 6" is the min.

Chuck
 
IG, have you looked into a pump that delivers 11 gpm with a motor that turns 1800 rpm instead of 3600 rpm? It should be much quieter to operate. Does Northern offer one? My press runs at 3600 and man its loud!
 
A C Richards said:
Thanks IG That can be a big help. I agree with the 5" or larger cyl. I personally feel 6" is the min.

Chuck
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Now we're talkin'! Let's kick this thread around a little while and maybe show some in progrss press builds - what say?
I have a question regarding the 6" cylinder - I have one available to me if I want it, but don't know if the 5 inch is adequate?
Will the 6 inch take a VERY large pump to handle the extra volume of oil, be a rather slooooooooooow ram speed, AND require a bigger eletric motor as well to run the larger pump AND require a larger reservoir?
Or, is 5 inch sufficient?
Seems as though many have suggested that the 5 inch would be about optimum as far as component size and ram speed.
Any help from you "press people"?
I'm a press virgin. Shhhhhh.....
 
I built H frame press plans from Batson about 10years ago .H frame is the easyed tp build. I used 4.75 in cyl.11 glm pump,3hp motor. It has work well.
It about 25 Tons. IG listed all the parts.
Troy Brown
 
I like the 6" for larger billets. I actually have an 8" and it moves a lot of material. I picked up a press for the price of a 6" cyl. I can draw out a piece of steel faster than.... If I build another, or should I say when, I will use at least a 6" with a 10 to 12" throw. Since I just moved and set up my shop my press does not fit inside (over 10' tall" so i have to set it up outside. I need to rebuild it to fit inside. I am thinking about reusing the cyl on the new press but I like the old one so much I hate to tear it apart.

Bruce
If you get a 22gpm pump that is rated for 3600rpm and run it at 1800 it will be 11gpm. Here's one from northern and they may even have more http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200321057_200321057

Chuck
 
A C Richards said:
I like the 6" for larger billets. I actually have an 8" and it moves a lot of material. I picked up a press for the price of a 6" cyl. I can draw out a piece of steel faster than.... If I build another, or should I say when, I will use at least a 6" with a 10 to 12" throw. Since I just moved and set up my shop my press does not fit inside (over 10' tall" so i have to set it up outside. I need to rebuild it to fit inside. I am thinking about reusing the cyl on the new press but I like the old one so much I hate to tear it apart.

Bruce
If you get a 22gpm pump that is rated for 3600rpm and run it at 1800 it will be 11gpm. Here's one from northern and they may even have more http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200321057_200321057

Chuck
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Thanks Chuck for the link. I didnt think it would be that easy! I want to convert mine someday.
 
A C Richards said:
I like the 6" for larger billets. I actually have an 8" and it moves a lot of material. I picked up a press for the price of a 6" cyl. I can draw out a piece of steel faster than.... If I build another, or should I say when, I will use at least a 6" with a 10 to 12" throw. Since I just moved and set up my shop my press does not fit inside (over 10' tall" so i have to set it up outside. I need to rebuild it to fit inside. I am thinking about reusing the cyl on the new press but I like the old one so much I hate to tear it apart.

Bruce
If you get a 22gpm pump that is rated for 3600rpm and run it at 1800 it will be 11gpm. Here's one from northern and they may even have more http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200321057_200321057

Chuck
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That's all good info Chuck. (That pump's a litle pricy though!)
Any way to determine ram speed on a 6" at 11gpm?
And, what motor would it take turn that pump?
 
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to pass along some useful information and an easy resource for the whole hydraulic press thread. A friend of mine is a blacksmith and bladesmith. He converted an hydraulic log splitter by welding steel plates on the ram end V and on the bottom. He then built his own dies and a way to hold them in place. So essentially for a little more than $1,000 you can get a 20 to 30 ton hydraulic press that with a little elbow grease will work and allow you to make your own damascus, etc.

Karl B. Andersen said:
I'm posting this seperately as I found some useful calculators:


http://www.surpluscenter.com/techhelp.asp?UID=2007122819592954&catname=
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I'm building a forge press just know.
It's 15 tons and should be pretty fast

If anyone is interested I could
make a build tread?
 
This is a very old post from 2008, bringing this thread back up is called necroposting. Usually if you have useful information it is desired that you start a new thread instead of necroposting
 
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