WAR BOAR question

Solstice

Solstice

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I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on Jerry's version of the Karambit. So to keep myself busy, I've been doing a lot of surfing on this paticular knife design. It seems that Jerry has stayed pretty true to the original concept of this knife, which is very cool IMO. :thumbup: One of things I've noticed is that most of them have either a full or partial sharpen top edge. Now given that Jerry's is fully serrated on top, would this still be clasified as a double edged knife? My thinking is that it would be but I'd like some other input. Thanks guys!
 
Hopefully we can get Boss Hog to do a Kali run!:cool: OH AND A TRAINER Please!:cool:
 
Bravado said:
Hopefully we can get Boss Hog to do a Kali run!:cool: OH AND A TRAINER Please!:cool:
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Hmmmm...that's right you'r down south aren't you bro?

No, sad but true, we can NOT carry a double edged knife in California. In fact my understanding, at least locally, is that the the authorities frown very heavily on double edged knives. Most of the time I carry a fixed blade concealed knowing that more than likely I'll get a pass by a police officier if discovered. Majority of the law officiers have an appreciation of knives and the like and I don't give the impression of being a "threat" nor does the type of knife I carry concealed. So even if caught carring one, I'm pretty sure I could walk away and probably with my knife. At the very best I would probably have to tuck my shirt in or something similar. Having a double edged fixed blade is a different story, they have strong feelings about what a person intentions are who carries one. Especially one such as Karambit. If caught with one concealed it would be double felony! :eek:

That sucks...:mad: You really think Jerry might come out with a non-double edge version of the War Boar? Man that would help out a lot! :thumbup:

Guess we'll have to wait and see.....
 
If the top edge is ground per the CNC dimensions, but not sharpened or serrated, (operations most likely performed by hand and easily forgone), you'll have a "false edge", but will it still be "double edged" in the eyes of the local prosecutor???
If you can get by legally with a False Edge then you may get lucky if you call the shop and ask for an incomplete Boar. I think it's a very good question to ask, and you'd be representing a good number of folks in your situation.
 
IMHO you should talk to a CA LEO to find out what the real deal is about knife laws in Cali and not go on "what you've heard."

You would be surprised about what is legal in CA if you do your homework.

RJD
 
rjd said:
IMHO you should talk to a CA LEO to find out what the real deal is about knife laws in Cali and not go on "what you've heard."

You would be surprised about what is legal in CA if you do your homework.

RJD
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You can talk to as many LEO's as you want and you'll get several different answers, you'll also get a few who just don't know. One things for sure and is in plain english is that a double edged blade is forbidden and also anything that's related to Brass knuckles. It's really hard to believe that you could actually get caught carrying a concealed firearm here and be charged with a much lesser crime of ccw which is a misdemeanor but most knife violations in regard to illegal carry are felonies!:thumbdn:
 
You cannot always count on getting proper info from LEO's regarding knives.
On two different occasions in a gun store I occasionally browse through, I have asked LEO's what the maximum legal folding knife length is in Alabama.
One was a Birmingham city policeman and one was a Jefferson County Sheriff's deputy. Both said that they really didn't know. One guessed "maybe five inches." The other said, "Just behave with it and carry whatever you want to." In any case, I am pretty sure that my 3.9" Rat Trap
is legal.
 
The best way to know if your blades are legal is to check with a lawyer. Most lawyers are will to do the research for a small fee, and it is better to spend a little money on research. If you are going to drive a car or carry a firearm, one learns what is legal and what is not.

I work for the court and I will tell you the d'uh excuse has never worked.:D
 
In California there are only two CA State Penal Codes that refer to the legality of knives. That is not to say that each City can make its own laws governing knives. As far as CA State Law, there is nothing in the CA Penal Code that forbids a double-edged knife.

The two laws that I am refering to are 12020 PC (Which covers deadly weapons) and 653(k) PC which covers switchblades and balisongs.

PENAL CODE SECTION 12020

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
or in the state prison:
(1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the
state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives,
lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable
firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a
firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which
contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or
carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst
trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any
short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any
leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol,
any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge
knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice
handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon
of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy,
sandclub, sap, or sandbag.
(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be
manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or
exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity
magazine.
(3) Carries concealed upon his or her person any explosive
substance, other than fixed ammunition.
(4) Carries concealed upon his or her person any dirk or dagger.

Call me crazy, but nowhere in the code do I see mention of a double-edged knife. The closest thing is a Dirk or Dagger. If you look up the definition of dirk or dagger, not all double edged knives fall into that category. Also if a Dirk or Dagger is not concealed on your person, it is not illegal.

RJD
 
Yupp you could probably beat just about anything in court if you've got enough money but that doesn't mean you won't get Charged. Most reference to a "Dirk Dagger" does mean double edged and also I did previously refer to carry. Carry a copy of the CA penal code around with you and show it to any LEO that gives you problem about a double edged knife with a ring on it.
 
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