War dog training

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Rocco Von Tajgetosz
almost 9 months
about 78 lbs and growing

This is only the third time I have trained him with the bite sleeve and he is responding well. We need to work on his approach a little but he keeps a firm bite and lets go upon command....of course I won't be letting anyone know what that command is. :D Need to give him a zombie vaccine in preparation for the coming collapse.

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Always good to see a well-trained dog in action! He is really beautiful!

(Kinda looks like Ol' Rocco got the best out of the seat of those jeans, though! :D)
 
Great looking dog. Just hope I dont run into him in a dark alley. LOL. Thanks for sharing the pics woth us.

Garth
 
Oh man he is gorgeous. 85 lbs at < 9 months is big. I weighed my male pup just yesterday and he is 82 lbs at 10 months. I hope Rocco plays nice with others because I will pass through there with my pups every now and then and they love to play.
 
Oh man he is gorgeous. 85 lbs at < 9 months is big. I weighed my male pup just yesterday and he is 82 lbs at 10 months. I hope Rocco plays nice with others because I will pass through there with my pups every now and then and they love to play.
I've got him pretty socialized with other dogs. He used to be quite intimidated by older bigger dogs but now he is reaching that turning point where his testosterone is startin to flow. I haven't fixed him yet so when he plays with other aggressive breeds I just stay calm and stay right on top of the situation. I haven't had any problems so far but I train and work with him everyday for at least a couple hours-his energy is calm because of this. I intend on fixing him at a year and a half, that way he will grow bigger and develop more muscle. I hope you do bring your dog out Tim, they sound like they would be a good match as friends-same age and size. There are several other puppies around the same size and age that he plays with on a regular basis.
Rocco says thanks for all the compliments!!
 
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His name belongs to him! very cool! All black and man look at those ears! In those adult pics, he looks ready- nobody gonna mess with him. Thanks for posting sir! I take it your a firefighter so thank you for that as well.
 
my belgian malinois Jock loves bite training. Back when my family was breeding them we would let the deputys put the sleeve on when they came to look at our pups. we had some pretty pricey offers from guys in the dirt.
 
I've got him pretty socialized with other dogs. He used to be quite intimidated by older bigger dogs but now he is reaching that turning point where his testosterone is startin to flow. I haven't fixed him yet so when he plays with other aggressive breeds I just stay calm and stay right on top of the situation. I haven't had any problems so far but I train and work with him everyday for at least a couple hours-his energy is calm because of this. I intend on fixing him at a year and a half, that way he will grow bigger and develop more muscle. I hope you do bring your dog out Tim, they sound like they would be a good match as friends-same age and size. There are several other puppies around the same size and age that he plays with on a regular basis.
Rocco says thanks for all the compliments!!

Sounds like you know what you are doing...good to hear. 6-9mths is fine to desex them though, it wont affect muscle growth and it will be easier to socialise him. When the boy still has his bits he always has something to prove. My pitbull cross german shephard was desexed at 6mth and he is still heavy set, helps to prevent them trying to dominate everything also. Just make sure your dog knows that you own him, not the other way round, and it all works out well.

Here is a pic of him...note, we dont use prong collars, they tried him with it at a training camp with my supervision (and took the pic). He responds well to check chain and positive reinforcement now. We had a specialist police dog trainer help us with him after that 3 week course cost my $1250 and achieved nothing. The k9 trainer fixed his anxiety and confidence issues, plus taught me how to manage a dog properly, in 4 hours! Best trainer I have ever seen.

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Sounds like you know what you are doing...good to hear. 6-9mths is fine to desex them though, it wont affect muscle growth and it will be easier to socialise him. When the boy still has his bits he always has something to prove. My pitbull cross german shephard was desexed at 6mth and he is still heavy set, helps to prevent them trying to dominate everything also. Just make sure your dog knows that you own him, not the other way round, and it all works out well.

Here is a pic of him...note, we dont use prong collars, they tried him with it at a training camp with my supervision (and took the pic). He responds well to check chain and positive reinforcement now. We had a specialist police dog trainer help us with him after that 3 week course cost my $1250 and achieved nothing. The k9 trainer fixed his anxiety and confidence issues, plus taught me how to manage a dog properly, in 4 hours! Best trainer I have ever seen.

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What a great looking cross b!! The only other dog that I am considering for a 2nd dog besides another GS is a pit bull-preferably an American Pitbull Terrier. They really do make some of the best dogs period as long as they have the right owner who knows how to stay on top of them without abusing the dog physically or mentally. I've seen pit bulls get hit or smacked by their owners more than any other breed and this is not the way to train or treat a dog, especially an aggressive breed.

I really appreciate your input as well. It's always good to see and learn from other peoples perspectives based on what they have experienced.
 
Thanks guys. Yeah the only thing that sucks is the vets out here. He hurt his paw a while back and I took him in and this lady vet comes in the room, with two younger girls who were interns I guess and he barks, She right away calls him vicious and tells the girls to wait outside. It upset me because its just his natural instinct to bark at someone he doesn't know. She had me use material to make a muzzle because she didn't have one. I thought about it for a second as I was trying to hold him still and then said screw it and walked out. She wasn't very happy at all. Ive been taking him to the dog parks to socialize him and he does great, just likes to hump everything in sight since I havent got him fixed yet because we want to get a pup from him. We also have a belgian malinois mix we got from the pound. Her name is belle and boy do they play rough even though shes like a quarter of his size. Ill post a pic of them playing. IMAG0472.jpgIMAG0475.jpgIMAG0476.jpgIMAG0477.jpgIMAG0479.jpg

Oh and Wolfdad. I had this screen name for a while I was going through the fire academy and blew out my knee so no didn't make it in. Just kept the name. Was too lazy and not sure if I can change it once on here. I actually repo houses for the bank. Firefighter would be so much more respected in peoples eyes than what I do.
 
I really appreciate your input as well. It's always good to see and learn from other peoples perspectives based on what they have experienced.
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My dad was a GS breeder and trainer and he supplied the local police force. I am neither a breeder or trainer and claim no expertise but can relay some of what I learned from my dad and my own experience with the breed.

My current pups are 10 months old. I have done all their training off-leash and without any treats or training aids, clickers, collars, crates or bells on doors etc. All was done with positive reinforcement and voice tone. There were a few occasions where I had to control them by the scruff of the neck, like their mother would have done. I have focused on association, repetition and distraction training.

Every place we go, park, woods, upstairs, in the car etc we repeat the words over and over again until they associate it. Also with objects like ball, frizbee, go-slide, lazer (they love to chase the laser pointer beam :D) etc. I actually get in trouble when I say "later" in a sentence. They think its "lazer", they jump up, get all excited and start staring at the floor, at my hand, at the floor and after a bit start barking when there is no lazer. :D Now all we need to do is say, "in the car", "lets go to the woods' etc. and they will get very excited, run to the car etc. Or "go slide" and they will climb the steps and run down the slide.

House training was very quick. We took them out very often, repeated the word "outside" often so they would associate it. Whenever they went in the house and we caught them in the act we would say "No" in a firm tone, not screaming but firm, said "go outside". took them outside and then praised them when they did their business. There was no discipline if we did not catch them in the act other than pointing to it and saying "No".

In my neighborhood we have no fences in the front yards so I had to train them not to go in the street. I walked them to the edge very often, made them sit and then I would walk into the street. If they followed I would tell them "no!" and put them back on the grass. Eventually they would walk with me and stop without a command at the street. I would praise them much. Then I focused on distraction training. I would run into the street and ride my bicycle into the street. Also when the kids came off the school bus and when other dogs walked past. They were trained in only a few weeks. People cannot believe that we do not have an electronic fence.

It was actually a challenge to get them to go into the street when I first started walking them. :D They would walk to the edge, sit and not follow me, just like they were taught. So I had to work on the "come" command. I had to actually put my arm around them to get them into the street when I said "come".

With walking, the female just naturally heeled but the male did not. I would just use two fingers and pull him back by the back of the neck. Now they heel when walking, running and when I am on the bicycle. I would walk them past other dogs for distraction. The male took off once to play with another dog without a release command and would not come back. That was the one occasion that I had to grab him by the collar, other arm around his chest, say "no"and drag him back to the other side of the street, make him sit and then continue. There are many open grassy areas and wide public grass areas along the road here. When I walk them in the street they have to heel, and I never cross the street without stopping and waiting first. When we get to a grass area I release them with a "go" command and let them run free. They learned very quickly.

What amazed me was that even though these areas were foreign to them initially, they would not go off the grass into the street, just because of the training at their home. They run ahead and stop when they get to a street. Also at friends houses. It is very interesting to see peoples' reactions when I walk or cycle down the road with these two pups without a leash.

The only issue that I still have is that when they are surprised, e.g. when someone appears unexpectedly close and they did not see them approaching from a distance, e.g. when I open the front door and there are people right in front of the yard, they will bark and run towards them. They will stop at the edge but it does startle some people, understandably so. I scream "No" but that sometimes adds to the peoples' apprehension, so I need to work on that.

So anyway, I am sure this is common knowledge to most people but I do see so many people being too overbearing, strict or harsh with their dogs and the dogs become either stubborn or too timid. A more positive approach works better IMO. But I only have experience with German Shepherds and a few other easy to train breeds.

I have no experience with Pitbulls but there is one at the beach where we take our dogs. That Pitbull is the most timid dog on all the beach. She is actually in the program where their owners take them to hospitals or clinics to visit patients who pet them etc. She is a really sweet dog. Nature vs. nurture, I don't know but I think nurture has much to do with it.
 
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good looking dog...If I were looking to get a crossbreed to this kind of stuff my neighbor had a pit rott mix..sweet little baby but definitely had what it takes to be a monster
 
GOOD VET=DIFFICULT TO FIND. In Vegas it's hard to find a good doctor for humans let alone dogs. I knew 2 awesome vets and they both moved away, go figure. They probably got fed up with all the wacked out people out here. Great stuff Tim, I thought I was reading a book or maybe a LVC reply for a sec.
 
good writeup l2lku2, I have a french bulldog puppy that Ive been told is pretty hard to train, I am gonna trry the positive reinforcement technique
 
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