Warranty epicness

Dr. Lecter

Dr. Lecter

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Back at the end of August, I took my NMSFNO on a little trip way back into the jungles of Waimanu valley on Hawaii island.
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There was a regrettable shortage of dry, down firewood near camp, so I did what any Busse-wielding maniac would do: start chopping up the biggest, densest dead tree available so I could baton it into useful chunks!
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Unfortunately, this big gnarled old thing was hiding a serious folded over nail.
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Just looking at it in the field, I suspected some deep chunks had gone missing.
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Cleaned up, that was damn sure the case :/
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I got in touch with the shop, told them my tale of woe, and shipped them the knife as requested. Earlier this week, just like Amy said, Garth's handiwork appeared in my mailbox despite all the mil orders and ganzza craziness that must be leaving them seriously slammed :D
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It's...slimmer, almost like a NMSFNO knocked up a Boss Jack and the kid got the SFNO handle and the BJ blade.
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I kinda like it, though the balance is decidedly different and my sheath totally doesn't fit anymore. Good excuse to let Chad build me a new one, though :)

Many thank yous, Busse warranty!
 
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That's a great story all round with a happy ending! Who would ever guess a nail inside the tree....craziness ha!
 
hydeinmind said:
Who would ever guess a nail inside the tree
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While a whole nail would be odd, it’s not uncommon to run across barbed wire and staples in many trees here from fences that used to be around and got moved over the years. Usually, you can see by the unusual growth pattern about fence line height, but I’ve ruined chainsaw blades when didn’t see the scar or wasn’t one.
 
Very cool!! The Busse guys are on the ball with this stuff. Good to see your knife is back ready for work.
 
Nice story and no doubt the best warranty in the biz...

but I'm surprised by the amount of damage sustained by the INFI :confused:

I've seen less damage caused by greater <ab>use.
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
Nice story and no doubt the best warranty in the biz...

but I'm surprised by the amount of damage sustained by the INFI :confused:

I've seen less damage caused by greater <ab>use.
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Dunno...its basic angle was set by the CS (normal full zero convex), all I had Ban do was polish out the existing edge rather than regrinding it. Must have been a combination of force, impact angle, and nail hardness.
 
I've hit barb wire before it chews the hell out of sr101 "rodent 6", never seen that much chipping on infi though. I thought it was just a tough spot or a knot in the oak so i kept batoning... cut through the wire but left some chips about 1/8th deep. Busse and lexi took care of me no problem. You really cannot beat their service and warranty , and there is no equal.
 
That might be the next O2W offering. I’m glad they took care of you, good people at that shop in Ohio. On a side note, that tree is freaking huge!
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
Nice story and no doubt the best warranty in the biz...

but I'm surprised by the amount of damage sustained by the INFI :confused:

I've seen less damage caused by greater <ab>use.
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I thought INFI was supposed to roll rather than chip.
This is really surprising.
 
Not so sure I'd call that textbook "chipping," hard to tell about the margins from the pics provided but it doesn't look like the normal way some steels chip out to me. In a couple places it looks like the INFI's kinda been mashed up into the edge. But in other places it looks like steel's missing.

But still, I would never expect that level of damage inflicted upon INFI from any kind of nail. Hell, everyone remembers Nos, right?
 
What about that bb13?
Looks like chipping to me.
On both. Especially the NMSFNO. It tore hunks of it out imo.
 
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Yup, the BB13 "looks" like chipping from a stressed edge-- especially the way it's got missing steel just along the bevel. A good regrind into the virgin INFI would fix that one up, I'd guess. It'd take a minute, but the results would be great.

The Outlaw damage is more intriguing for me, however. From my viewpoint the margins around the damage look sort of mashed and rolled. But it also look like there's missing mass there also. Maybe someone from Busse who had a chance to inspect the edge more closely will wade in with something more definitive. And I'm being honest, it'd bother me a little if that were my blade...hell, it's not even my blade and it bothers me.

The Outlaw reminds me of some poor bastard walking up after a fight looking like he's had a world-class ass whoopin and his buddies say, "You look like hell!" And the beat up dude says, "Yeah, but you should see the other guy!"

...except in this case, it looks like the "other guy" <the nail> didn't get as much damage as you'd expect.
 
When physics, statistics and the real world combine, things that shouldn't happen can occur. I would gather that the outlaw damage is an outlier event due to a combination of multiple factors, one of which being that Busse INFI is as close as it gets to light saber plasmaflux as modern steel metallurgy can get, but it isn't a short range laser beam in fact.

I have had large blades get pretty hot during chopping through hard dried wood, not burn your fingers hot but pretty darn warm, and when you combine heat, impact, and a nail that's firmly lodged in hardened wood, well 99.9% of the time you might come out blade unscathed, but then again this can happen once in a long while.
 
Yeah, it' just really strange. Just saw a pic the other day. A guy actually batonned his INFI blade thru a piece of pipe!
 
DamascusBowie said:
When physics, statistics and the real world combine, things that shouldn't happen can occur. I would gather that the outlaw damage is an outlier event due to a combination of multiple factors, one of which being that Busse INFI is as close as it gets to light saber plasmaflux as modern steel metallurgy can get, but it isn't a short range laser beam in fact.

I have had large blades get pretty hot during chopping through hard dried wood, not burn your fingers hot but pretty darn warm, and when you combine heat, impact, and a nail that's firmly lodged in hardened wood, well 99.9% of the time you might come out blade unscathed, but then again this can happen once in a long while.
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Bottom line, the warranty work was equivalent to having a regrind done. Time consuming and expensive, but provided as part of the deal by BUSSE! Outstanding. :thumbsup:

And, it is very eye-opening how WARM the steel gets chopping thru wood. Kinda like the old saying about chopping firewood, "You get warmed TWICE." Well, if you count the heat dispersed into the steel, the wood actually has THREE warmings stored in it! :p
 
I doubt that chopping makes the blade warm enough to have any difference in toughness and I really wonder about the amount of damage which occured.
Was the Outlaw ground too thin? Maybe got burned during grinding? Was the nail made of infi, too? Questions...
 
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