Was thinking about buying a couple Beckers!!

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But did you see Noss' destruction test on the BK9.. it completely broke in half while chopping the stone..

Does anyone know if this was the old camillus model? If so whats the difference with the metal used at kabar?

I know metals and hardening vary slightly in production steel, maybe it was a fluke??

Most knives make it to the weight test but not this one..

Anyhow can someone shed some light for me here, I'm really interested in the 9 but really don't want to dish out the cash if it cant hang.. of course I have no intentions of beating it against a piece of concrete..

Thanks,
 
I'll tell you one thing for certain, and you will see it echoed and evidenced here on the forum multiple times. If you ever have a problem with a KA-BAR blade, assuming you are using it somewhat like it was intended, they WILL stand behind them. Take that to the bank. (There might be a concrete block disclaimer.) :D
 
There SHOULD be a concrete block disclaimer. Some of these abuse tests are pointless. What real world task would involve smashing your blade into a concrete block?
 
None, I only skimmed through the videos.. but I have watched other destruction tests at greater length.. to which I've never seen any break at this early stage in the test..

and the only one I've never seen get broken was the unbelievable CS Khukri Machete, the $14 one.. it never broke!! I have one and its a beast beat it in the dirt against rocks no chips..

can anyone shed light to when the newer ones have been produced ?

those aren't real world tests, but if this is to be a survival knife I think it should hold up better then it did.. I mean if you're truly in the element and trying to survive with this thing and it breaks..................................
 
tuffthumbz said:
who chops rocks anyway. i usually chop wood, seems to burn nicer then rocks.
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sometimes you hit rocks, gravel, dirt whatever when you're working brush, it happens.. I know first hand from my cheap $14 CS Khukri it has outperformed anything I throw at it (machete wise)... of course I haven't used my $160+ import machetes as much as that but soon those will be in the dirt hitting rocks as well.. And I'm most confident they will outperform at 26oz+
 
TheLastDaze said:
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Does anyone know if this was the old camillus model? If so whats the difference with the metal used at kabar?
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Anyhow can someone shed some light for me here, I'm really interested in the 9 but really don't want to dish out the cash if it cant hang.. of course I have no intentions of beating it against a piece of concrete
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ah, tests to destruction. Ethan chimed in on this one once. believe it or not, he has tested his own knives, so did Camillus, and so does KaBar, probably with a bit more science thrown in and better testing procedures. in the wild, you are unlikely to be clamping your knife in a vise, or doing some of the things those ewetube destruction videos get into.

in a survival situation, if you only have 1 knife? you don't abuse it. it's that basic. you find another way to solve problems than trying to break your only potential tool. of course, in the wild, two knives are one, one is none. nuff said.

to answer your question, it was probably the Camillus model. the steel is roughly the same. the heat treat is different. search on some of the slightly older threads that cover this difference in detail.


Bladite
 
Don't worry about those tests. Anything that is done is not going to need to be done in a 'survival situation' anyway. An accidental hit on a rock, maybe. But I doubt that much damage would really be done. The only thing I see is if you had to pry something heavy that fell on a limb.
 
TheGame said:
Don't worry about those tests. Anything that is done is not going to need to be done in a 'survival situation' anyway. An accidental hit on a rock, maybe. But I doubt that much damage would really be done. The only thing I see is if you had to pry something heavy that fell on a limb.
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you should easily be able to chop that limb off ;)


Bladite
 
Noss. Destruction tests. Uh-huh, sure . . . give me a break. Just about the least credible, least scientific "tests" ever conducted. Why would anyone place credence in those?

It's good that Noss has fun, and makes some money, off of those silly things, but I sure wouldn't let one of his "tests" determine whether or not I would buy a given knife.

Go ahead and buy a BK-9, and don't worry about it. Even if you should somehow have a problem, which I doubt, you'll be taken care of because you're dealing with Becker/KA-BAR: that says it all.
 
another way of putting it: in the ENTIRE HISTORY of Beckers, exceeding what? 30 years? regarding blade issue, some have chipped, a few have broken, all of them have been taken care of by the maker after the fact by the makers or the man.

the very first instance i heard of a Becker breaking, was by a soldier that was prying chunks of something (armor) out of a tank tread "over there", and he snapped the tip clean off. said soldier got a nice brand new knife.

someone, actually the combined efforts of several people managed to break a tac-tool by forcefully opening a jail cell with it. multiple hundreds of pounds of human muscle against one tiny tool. survival situation? it did the job. helped get that cell door open.

you'll note in the Hoss BK9 video silliness, that he managed to chop continue to baton and chop some wood in half. in a "survival" situation, that would be *useful*, no? definitely abuse though. i hope he wasn't expecting a new knife ;)

so. buy some Beckers. use them. don't like them? sell them. they will sell. you probably won't break one in normal or even extra normal use.


Bladite
 
You can break a Becker, if you work at it. You can break any knife ever made. One of the big differences is that Becker will take care of you.

There are knives that cost eight or ten times what a Becker costs, that won't stand up any better (and some not as well), and don't have as good of warranty service as a Becker. Yeah, some make some claims for great warranties but, when it really comes down to it, nothing seems to beat a Becker in actual practice. Just my observation, of course. YMMV.
 
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