water fitting a leather sheath...?

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Hi,
I have a fillet knife and leather sheath I got from Texas Knife Maker Supply. I'm told I can "water fit" the sheath for the blade. Does this mean that I soak the sheath in water until completely wet and then let it dry with the knife inside of it...? Can anyone explain the process to me...?
 
Just wrap the knife with saran wrap. Soak the sheath with warm tap water till it becomes supple. Then put the knife in and form the sheath to it with your fingers. You could use a press similar to kydex forming but it's not necessary. Once the leather starts holding the form, set it down and let it dry. I usually take the knife out after a half hour or so and wipe it down to make sure it's dry. The sheath should hold it's form and be dry the next day.

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Burn, do not oversoak the sheath. Run some hot water over the sheath just till it is evenly wet, just move it under the stream from the faucet till it changes color all over. Run water into it quickly and dump it out. Leather should be toatally moistened but not soaking wet. I like to wrap my knives in 2 layers of saran wrap for shaping sheath. Insert the knife into sheath and use your fingers to start pressing down along the outline of the knife. I like to have the sheath laying flat on a clean surface because the side you want shaped is the front(opposite the belt loop). Be careful not to let your nails dig into or scratch the wet leather because you will not be able to get rid of these marks. Also make sure hands are clean because dirt marks will stay too and you will have to use very dark dye to cover it up. Work the leather around the contours of the knife pressing down firmly all around. Work the knife in and out of the sheath a few times. I like to really press hard and get a tight fit. Don't worry, when you remove the 2 layers of saran wrap from the knife it won't be too tight. When you're satisfied with the shaping,let the sheath air dry without the knife in it. I like to put the knife back in every hour or so as it is drying and keep shaping.You can also put a belt through the loop a few times with the knife in sheath to shape the loop too. Remember, work clean.If you didn't oversoak the leather, should dry nice and shaped in about 24-36 hours.
BTW-I have also used clean acetone instead of water and it dries in an hour or two, but I know alot of leatherworkers don't reccommend this. The best instructions for a simple pouch sheath I have seen are in Loveless's book, How To Make Knives. You can also ask Gary Graley any questions, he is a master sheathmaker and heck of a nice guy.
Hope this helps.
 
Wipe your leather with a damp sponge so leather doesn't get too wet. That is how leather toolers keep their leather moist while working.

BlacksmithRick
 
Lots of good info above. I was taught to use a smooth piece of antler to get a good fit around the knife handle and blade.

Dave Evans
Tenino, WA

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Some excellent information there... thanks fellas, I sure do appreciate it!
 
The process is called wet molding and it has its pros and cons. If you purchased rather than made your own sheath, you should be aware if the piece has been previously been given a finish. The three most used finishes in the modern era are: #1 an oil finish--this can be neatsfoot oil, walnut oil,olive oil and several other types. #2 is an acrylic finish and #3 would be a leather lacquer. All are excellent
finishes---AND ALL RESIST WATER!
This makes the dampening of the sheath a new ball game and oten mars the color of the sheath. There is no doubt that a wet molded sheath is
very attractive with sharp mold lines. To be a good fit, the sheath
has to be a good fit prior to the molding process and in most cases this would eliminate most commercial
sheaths. The molding process does not shrink the leather, but in reality, creates a box into which
the knife is placed. You can not use the knife to mold a case that will be tighter than the article that was molded around. This will work
niceley on a sheath that has a restraint of some sort to secure the
knife into the case but in a pure pouch type sheath. restraint is damn near nil. In the pure pouch , I strongly recommend a close fit and no molding as the tight sheath has a great amount of friction to aid in blade retention. Properly made thiscan be a very attractive piece of work. For years I have heard of
the built in "cam" locks in pouches.
Sounds great if only they did as advertised. Nice to throw in a few cents worth of past experience!




 
I find the built in cam lock on a pouch sheath as described on Loveless's book works quite well for knives with single guards. I use heavier leather(like sole leather) for the welt and have a nice gentle curve in it that the guard has to sqeeze buy. You can actually hear the knife snap into place.
I don't think it would work for a knife without a guard,though.

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