Water quench?

Joined
Feb 7, 2006
Messages
1,327
I have a 4 foot bar of 1/4"x 1 1/2" 1095 from Kelly(Had it for 4 years lol) and want to do a few blades out of it. Plan on doing a satanite coat on the blades and quench in water to get a good, active hamon. Is there a specific temp the water needs to be at? Is it like oil, need to be at 120* plus? I have only quenched in water once, it was room temp and i cracked the blade in 4 spots, broke into pieces actually.....I know it cannot be brought to full hardness using oils...


Any suggestions?
 
Parks and some other fast oils will harden it completely. If you want to use water, I suggest considering brine instead.
 
Brine works best with less cracking, there have been several posts discussion I think a 3-5% salt solution warmed to 120 f. I did the last of my 1095 that way and did not have any cracking.

Good luck
 
Brine is often used to eliminate air bubbles during the quench, and is a more even, yet more aggressive quench than water. It is stated in "The Craft of the Japanese Sword" that clay on the blade has the same effect, evening and slightly speeding the quench, thus rendering salt unnecessary. I've read this elsewhere several times.

Randall Graham wrote a great page on water quenching, it's over at Don Fogg's site under "techniques." It describes the method he's used for everything from W1 to 5160, even 440C. He says, and my limited experience with water bears this out, that it is important to evenly finish the blade before the quench- I go to 220 grit everywhere before claying. Normalizing at least once, maybe 3x is good to do first, and an even heat is important when heating for the quench.

I've quenched for 3 seconds in luke-hot water, about 110F, then gone immediately to preheated oil. The water gets you past the nose of the TT curve, the oil cools the rest of the way. You get the shock of water with less of the full stress. I read this method from Jesus Hernandez. Some other guys do this too. Everyone seems to do it a little different.

I'd say go to Don Fogg's forum, look in the HT area. Many sword smiths over there, many threads about hamons and water quenching. Check the sword forum over at IforgeIron, too.

Pray first. I do, to heathen sword gods.
 
If 440C were water quenched, I'd be interested to see if anyone had it looked at to see if it had microfractures in it.
 
Back
Top