Waterstone combo recommendation!

[rexromic]

Hi first time posting here and I'am looking for recommendation for waterstone combo.Heard names as Naniwa,Norton,Shapton…
Would like to get a combo of coarse-medium-fine-extra fine stones.What kind of grits fit in this combo.Had some suggestions for 220-1000-3000-8000 grit stones.I have folding knives 2.5-3.9" length and in range of steels,from S30V,M4,M390,CTS-XHP,ZDP-189…..
Any suggestions for a decent waterstone combo(3-4 stones ,range 150-250 $).Thanks.

 

[Jason B.]

For what you sharpen you will want to look into Shapton stones. I am building a set of Shapton Pro's myself, I have a 320 and 1k, and will be adding a 2k and 5k as funds allow. Very nice fast cutting stones that are reasonably priced.

 

[rexromic]

For what you sharpen you will want to look into Shapton stones. I am building a set of Shapton Pro's myself, I have a 320 and 1k, and will be adding a 2k and 5k as funds allow. Very nice fast cutting stones that are reasonably priced.

Thanks.

 

[Krav]

I have shapton pros 320-1000-6000 with a 140 lapping plate and stone holder. As soon as I get the money I'll get the atoma 140 lapper. But I'm very pleased with them.

 

[rexromic]

I have shapton pros 320-1000-6000 with a 140 lapping plate and stone holder. As soon as I get the money I'll get the atoma 140 lapper. But I'm very pleased with them.

Thanks ,wondering about Naniwa combo set,they seem a little cheaper than Shapton are they also good quality stones?

 

[Krav]

I have shapton pros 320-1000-6000 with a 140 lapping plate and stone holder. As soon as I get the money I'll get the atoma 140 lapper. But I'm very pleased with them.

Typo, 320- 1000- 5000

 

[Sadden]

Thanks ,wondering about Naniwa combo set,they seem a little cheaper than Shapton are they also good quality stones?

Good quality , but much softer and slower than the shaptons , for what your dealing with the only other thing I would get would be full sized diamond films. If I were you I would be looking at the shapton 220 , 1500 and 5k pro stones. You will need a good quality lapping plate such as an atoma 140 as well.

Jason , when you wear out that 320 id try the 220 , little harder and faster than the 320 , probably suit your needs better

 

[Jason B.]

Naniwa makes a lot of stones with the Chosera line and super stone line being the most well known. The Chosera stones are the best they make but would not work well on the steels you have listed.

It will be difficult for you to find something as effective on your steels because of the wear resistance, unless you go with diamonds.

 

[rexromic]

Naniwa makes a lot of stones with the Chosera line and super stone line being the most well known. The Chosera stones are the best they make but would not work well on the steels you have listed.

It will be difficult for you to find something as effective on your steels because of the wear resistance, unless you go with diamonds.

How about DMT diamond three stone combo,or is there anything better out there(diamond whetstone combo).

 

[rexromic]

Good quality , but much softer and slower than the shaptons , for what your dealing with the only other thing I would get would be full sized diamond films. If I were you I would be looking at the shapton 220 , 1500 and 5k pro stones. You will need a good quality lapping plate such as an atoma 140 as well.

Jason , when you wear out that 320 id try the 220 , little harder and faster than the 320 , probably suit your needs better

Is Shapton 5k ultra fine stone ?

 

[Jason B.]

Get the pro set from CKTG and give yourself a starting point. I personally prefer waterstones over diamond stones for he feel and edge quality. Diamond hones have there place and I would recommend you eventually get a small set but the waterstones are a better starting point IMO.

Sadden, I decided on the 320 because it was in a grit range that I'm lacking. I have a imanishi 220 pink brick for single bevel repair and a belt sander for regular V bevels. I will typically start a edge on the grinder so the medium-coarse stone was the best fit for me. I do plan on getting the pro 120 though.

 

[S.R.B]

Naniwa makes a lot of stones with the Chosera line and super stone line being the most well known. The Chosera stones are the best they make but would not work well on the steels you have listed.

I disagree with this, I use a range of Naniwa Chosera stones along with a couple DMT benchstones. The Choseras I use are 400/1k/3k/5k/8k and they work very well on the wear resistant super steels, just for kicks I tried sharpening a ceramic knife on them to see if they would cut and while it did take an age they did the job. From experience I would describe the Chosera's as ever so slightly softer than Shapton's glass stones but equally aggressive cutters. DMT benchstones are fantastic, they cut everything very quickly, its hard to go wrong with them although misuse can damage them quickly. With the exception of the corse grades I find the difference in time spent on the Chosera's vs the DMTs is maybe a couple minutes per knife, this might be important if you are sharpening for money but for the collector/hobbyist it hardly makes a difference. I do prefer the waterstones, especially for the finest grits, its easier to tell when you are completely flat on the bevel. The ultrafine DMT is a little like sharpening on glass.

 

[Jason B.]

Considering I have both Shapton and Chosera stones along with a complete set of DMT diamond hones and I have also sharpened thousands of knives in about every steel available I think I have a good handle on what stones work with what steels. I've sharpened high wear steels on Chosera stones and while it works it does not work well enough especially when the vanadium starts to increase in volume.

 

[rexromic]

Thanks guys,will start with Shapton 320-1000-5000 pro stones.

 

[rexromic]

Thanks again,closing.