Recommendation? Wayfarer 247 or Cheburkov Scout?

[GreenRaid]

On the off-chance that someone here has any experience with both I'd love to hear a little comparison between the two. The latter is pretty rare but I've seen it mentioned here a few times before, hopefully I can reel one of you into the thread.
Mostly concerned about the smoothness of the action and if they can "drop shut".

 

[hhmoore]

I haven't had any experience with the Scout; but I would choose it over the 247 (because I had a 247)

 

[GreenRaid]

I haven't had any experience with the Scout; but I would choose it over the 247 (because I had a 247)

Guessing you didn't like how it performs? The feedback I've generally seen is that it looks nice and has great fit and finish but the action and movement is pretty "meh" for the price point.

As far as I have seen the Scout is supposed to only have marginally worse movement than the Shirogov's. How close the 247's movement is compared to a Shiro, however, is what I don't know.

 

[Owen K.]

Go 247. people are put off by the non fall shut closing. For me that is not a big deal and it freaking rockets out. Beautiful/rugged knife. You won’t be disappointed.

 

[evancamp13]

I'm a little late in answering your thread here, but I've had the Scout for about a month and a half now, and to be honest, I have absolutely no clue how this knife isn't far more popular.... It's absolutely amazing!!! I've had older Olamics, and the action was excellent, but the Scout trumps nearly every knife I've had as far as action goes... It is only beat out by a few custom VanHeerden's at this point. It is smooth as glass and drops shut with ease. If you can find one, I cannot recommend this knife any more highly!

Edit to Add: This knife drops shut beautifully...

Photo for fun:

 

[Quiet]

Guessing you didn't like how it performs? The feedback I've generally seen is that it looks nice and has great fit and finish but the action and movement is pretty "meh" for the price point.

As far as I have seen the Scout is supposed to only have marginally worse movement than the Shirogov's. How close the 247's movement is compared to a Shiro, however, is what I don't know.

That is not true at all. Olamics have excellent action and movement.

 

[BigKurtHaze]

That is not true at all. Olamics have excellent action and movement.

You're 247 drops shut?

My 247 has very snappy opening. OP does seem to be talking about the other knife when asking if they can "drop shut". My 247 does not drop shut, I'm under the impression that is fairly common for this knife. I'll shut my dirty, lying mouth now...

 

[RBid]

The 247 rockets out with absolute authority, but doesn’t drop shut. The detent ball and ball track/ramp are set up such that the close is a very smooth, press-shut. No catches. Very consistent. If drop shut action is what you’re after, the 247 is a bad choice. I usually prefer a light shake-shut, but have discovered that the 247 gives me a unique fidget experience. I really enjoy rolling it shut.

The notion that drop shut defines ‘good action’ for some people now is interesting to me. I consider ‘good action’ to mean that deployment is consistent and authoritative, with a close that meets the goal of the designer.

 

[Quiet]

Go 247. people are put off by the non fall shut closing. For me that is not a big deal and it freaking rockets out. Beautiful/rugged knife. You won’t be disappointed.

This.

You're 247 drops shut?

My 247 has very snappy opening. OP does seem to be talking about the other knife when asking if they can "drop shut". My 247 does not drop shut, I'm under the impression that is fairly common for this knife. I'll shut my dirty, lying mouth now...

I have multiple Olamics that do drop shut, though I don't own a 247. Frankly, any comments I have concerning needing to have a knife "drop shut" as an indicator of quality are impolite and I'll keep them to myself. Impeccable fit and finish, beautiful action, excellent steel, but isn't a finger guillotine? TERRIBLE knife. LOL

 

[jill jackson]

247 is very tight, mine feels super solid and it doesn't drop shut, flies out quick but it has a smooth feel closing like a Sebenza IMO. I like it and it just has a feel like it would never develop blade play.

 

[evilgreg]

I still don't really get the whole "falls shut" fascination. I have knives that go into free fall if they slip one degree from vertical, but I actually prefer knives that take a small shake or two to close. I prefer it enough that I'll even resort to cranking down pivots extra tight to try to slow them down (which doesn't always work, my Milk falls shut no matter what I do with it).

That said, I'll probably buy a Cheburkov at some point.

 

[myowngod]

This. I don't care how it closes as long as the deployment is fast and smooth and the lockup is solid. I do not see how "drop shut" is an asset to a knife from a use/tool perspective.

I still don't really get the whole "falls shut" fascination. I have knives that go into free fall if they slip one degree from vertical, but I actually prefer knives that take a small shake or two to close. I prefer it enough that I'll even resort to cranking down pivots extra tight to try to slow them down (which doesn't always work, my Milk falls shut no matter what I do with it).

That said, I'll probably buy a Cheburkov at some point.

 

[Stumpy72]

I’m with the “I don’t understand the fall shut obsession” group. I’m not impressed by how flippers close, but I see how they deploy as all-important. I just got my first Olamic 247 and I couldn’t be more impressed by how it deploys. The way it deploys is how flippers should work and an example that other manufacturers should try to emulate.

Coincidentally, I also have a ZT 0450 that drops shut like there’s no tomorrow. I’ve nicked the flesh on the left side of my right thumbnail with it so many times that it’s driven my Band-Aid budget up. It’s a noteworthy and admirable knife and it deploys like it’s on amphetamines, but I don’t see the thumb-attacking fall shut aspect as being a plus and neither does my right thumb.

IMO, if how flippers close was so all-important and how they deploy was Criteria #2, they wouldn’t be called “flippers”. They’d be called “fall-shut closers”.

And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming... At this time, I know nothing about Cheburkovs beyond how to spell the name, but I’m going to remedy that deficiency at the November NYCKS. If I don’t bust my budget on CRK UG’s at the show, I might come home with a Cheburkov. If I do, I’ll post a knowledgable comparison here.