Wazzup with SRKW???

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As most Rats know, Jerry is bringing it in a major way over on the Busse side of the house. The Busse Cupidganza itself sports over 80 different blade types alone, and of course there are likely multiples of each type. It is enough to keep your head spinning and your CC screaming. Look on the exchange and there are always Busse blades for sale. Go to that auction site and you can find them readily available there as well.

BUT...finding a SR of any kind available for sale in any of these locations seems to be a much more tenuous proposition. Any theories as to why this is the case? And with demand outstripping supply (at least it appears that way), why aren't the prices of available Swamp Rats (new and used) a little closer to the Busses???
 
Don't give them any ideas.. I am just now getting into Scrapyard/Swamp Rat and maybe down the line a Busse or two But SR are priced fair as are Scrapyard....just harder to find.....
 
All of the following is just my Theory (?????):

Busse's and INFI sell at Premium top dollar. For some reason, investors snatch them up and resale them for more on the secondary market - High demand.

Most INFI pieces are apparently just queens and trade commodities. Granted, they could be ultimate users and some people clearly use them, but at such high prices and high appreciation, I think most/many people feel they are better served for buying and selling than using. So, OFTEN on the secondary market.
The fact that they are so frequently selling on the secondary market at marked up prices supports demand AND the fact that many purchases are clearly made with intent to resale in mind.

Rats are priced lower and are GREAT users. The temptation to use Rats seems more common and used Rats don't command as much secondary market price. So, I think people tend to keep their Rats and use them more.

Since the creation of Scrap Yard, the Bang-for-the-Buck that Swamp Rat used to have with SR-101 combined with Res-C is now not an option.

I think Swamp Rat has lost a lot of Bang-for-the-Buck customers and sales to Scrap Yard.

I personally, strongly feel Swamp Rat should still offer many knives with Res-C! - Or allow Scrap Yard to use SR-101 on certain knives with Res-C.

Scrap Yard knives are selling out within hours. Bigger savings in price and value, I feel is filling the demand for those who want high performance AND Great value.
Scrap Yard knives with Res-C are selling for $50 - $90 less than comparable Swamp Rats with not so nicely finished micarta.

Swamp Rat still has VERY high performance. And I personally prefer SR-101 over SR-77. But, the costs have gone up considerably with micarta and I (personally - even if a minority) don't think the micarta is finished up to industry standards let alone for knives costing $150 - $200+ or so.


Bottom line: INFI is the number one item for Jerry to maximize profits - regardless the reason. So, naturally, he puts more effort into INFI.

I would and do recommend a few tweeks to the Swamp Rat line-up including: bring Res-C back, improve micarta finish quality - I personally would like smaller guards and closer in choils especially on smaller knives, but that is another story.

But, even with these changes, these might increase demand for Swamp Rat, but I don't know that these changes would maximize profits (dollar return vs. Jerry's investment) as well for Jerry as the high demand and VERY high prices of INFI.

None of this helps me as I would rather have the most knife for the least amount of money - I wish I could buy INFI at $100 - $150 prices!

But, I understand why Jerry would focus on high demand, Fast selling, HIGH dollar and HIGH profit INFI. There are LOTS of people lined up and willing to pay what I consider VERY high prices for some of the best knife steel on the planet - INFI. Clearly other people consider the investment differently than I. Many for the potential return on their investment and some just clearly are willing to pay VERY high dollar to have the best.... even if the best is only a small percentage better than SR-101 and at multiple times the cost. Human nature to some degree.

It is no stretch to call the HIGH demand of people willing to pay such HIGH prices for a knife a phenomenon. Simple blanks of steel, sharpened and shaped into a nice functional tool. But, still - A Knife - selling for more than pretty high dollar guns, electronics and many other impressively more complex items. Best steel, Great steel, sure, but still - a knife and people foaming to pay many hundreds of dollars for them!

Impressive!

Congrats to Jerry.



Just my theory.....

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it all boils down to how much you got in your wallet that you are willing to devote to knives... i've been fighting myself to buy a Busse blade but I keep holding out for a Dog or another Rat.... But SY and SR dont put out like i wish they did... All i own at this point is Rats. I have 5 or 6 pieces of sr101. Im a rat at heart but i want a dog and a hog :)
 
I, admittedly, don't spend a great deal of time over at the SRKW home forum *but* it is busy. Not like Scrap Yard, but still busy.

I think the Swamp Rats have become sort of like the "stealth hog." Except for maybe the Mojos - the Chopweilers, Swamp Wardens, and Ratmandus sell out... fast. Not within 15 minutes like the bargain basement priced Scrap Yards but still in less than 24 hours. About the same time it always took to sell, say, something like the Rat Daddy CG. Not fair, I guess, the RD-CG took almost a week.

Either way, they sell 'em out quickly but not so insane-fast that you have to be there the moment they go on the site- just in the first couple of hours. ;)

The Swampies get steadily snapped up but rarely go on the exchange. The RMD, ChopWeiler and HRLM are all EXCELLENT blades. Even the Mini-mojo and M6, which didn't get quite the same cult following, rarely shows up for sale.

Stealthy... like a Rat. :)








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My two-cents.
 
I hate to say this but I like the designs of the rats better than most of the current Busse crop. My favorite of all my rats is my two HRLM's and two Ratmandus. Basically they are the BAIII and the original satin jack. Both of which are better than the tac handled follow ons that have come since. The rats don't overindulge on handle dimensions like the Busse's do. I love my Busse's but I sure don't like carrying around the extra weight and handle length for a knife that clearly won't chop well nor was it designed to. I am not trying to incite any hog riot here but I would love to see an infi version of either of those two rat blades. I love them but much prefer the stain resistance of infi over sr101. I have found that its much easier to get sr101 to start corroding than my infi. I keep a stripped Heavy Duty in my car and give it no maintenance whatsoever and never have had any issues. I find I have to be more careful with my rats. No slam on Busse whatsoever, because I prefer them over my rats, but I like the more function oriented over design blades that they produce.
 
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