Weapon Similiarities

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LongRifle

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If you have seen The Last of the Mohicans (I stole my user name from that movie) a few people use what appears to be a long wooden forward weighted weapon (it looks kind of like an over grown lamb chop with a big spike sticking out of the side). The last of the Mohicans (his name is Chingachook) uses this weapon. Both it and the khukuri have a similiar design in that their functionality comes from the forward placement of weight. The only other examples of this type of design I have seen seem to be Indian weapons. Beyond the India/Nepal region I haven't seen much else.

Matthew

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[This message has been edited by LongRifle (edited 06-18-2000).]
 
I saw one of those about a month ago at a Pow -wow. That was a nasty looking war club. Seemed quite formidable and I do not relish the idea of having to face it in battle. It was cool though, and I would have bought it if I had the funds.

Christian
 
Dont forget leaf shaped blades,they go back to what,the bronze age?I guess these can be included as forward weighted,but im certainly no expert.Also various tribal weapons.ive seen a few that would fit the categorie.

Ahh almost forgot...yeah i love that movie.The burning scene was a bit too real...i loved that weapon your talking about.I always wondered if there are real examples out there of that.One made of steel would be awesome.

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Hello,
I've been watching various threads here and thought I'd jump in. There are several other weapons that I've heard of which have a similar forward curving style. In no particular order there's the kopis (or machaira) from Greece, mentioned here in other threads, the Sica and Falx (one and two handed respectively) from around Thrace/Dacia, as well as other variants on the "gunstock" war club. Seems like people know a good thing when they see it.

On a side note, I just got my first forward curving blade (an HI AK of course), and I'm already thinking about another.

Brian

P.S. I loved the movie
 
Great topic. Also one of my favorite movies of all time.

One of the swords used by the Celtiberians in the Punic Wars with the Romans looked just like a kukuri with a d-guard, and averaged 22-26 inches in overall length. It was called a falcata. There are numerous historical references to its ability to split shields and helmets- not to mention people.

There are a number of club variants used by the early woodland Inidans that use a forward angled design. Some have a curve with a ball or round carved head.

Finn


 
Snuffy, Congratulations on your first HI Knife. Welcome to the cantina.

It is also good to have another knife knut in the area.
 
Time to put the mace back behind the truck seat and it ain'y the cs/cn/pepper spray some might think of. Nope, it's a circa AD 1000 5 lanced mace replica dug up from Londinium.

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That war club in "Last of the Mohicans" was awesome. I also really liked the "running style" fighting moves. Very similar to a BaGua form I was taught years ago.
 
War clubs in general and the gunstock club in particular are subjects almost as interesting as knives. Ever notice that the blade on a gunstock club is nearly at the sweet spot on a khukuri blade just on the oposite side. I lived near where The Last of the Mohicans was filmed at one time and love that movie.

I have heard through oral tradition that the war club was the preferred way to settle differences of opinion even after the bow and gun came along. Some tribes basically said that bows were used for killing animals and enemies outside the tribe, any tribal member who used a bow or gun on another member in a fight over a woman, etc. would be put to death for being a coward. Has anyone else heard or read this?
 
I`m sure that Tom knows more of this than I, but it seems the European myth of "the noble savage" has been laid to rest.

You sure would not want Apaches or Commanch coming around if you were not one.

There was provision for banishment for transgressions in the "five civilized tribes",or less than leathal means, but winner takes all was the rule.

Of course, one can not generalise, as there were so many tribes.Any idea of how many?At least hundreds.
 
Tom and I descend from one of the five civilized tribes and are thus not given to killing fellow tribesmen or anybody for that matter with warclubs -- but knives and guns! What the hell.



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