Wedgeway Cutlery Co?

[pistonsandgears]

Recenty aquired this knife and was wondering if anyone has come across one like this before.
I am suspicious of the knife, it has the tang stamp of an old knife but the knife does not appear old.
The knife does seem pretty well made, nice walk and talk, pinned shield, but I suspect it is some sort of reproduction and was wondering if anyone has any insight.
I was wondering if this may be one of the made in Germany Jim Parker reproductions that I have heard of.

 

[paulhilborn]

Recenty aquired this knife and was wondering if anyone has come across one like this before.
I am suspicious of the knife, it has the tang stamp of an old knife but the knife does not appear old.
The knife does seem pretty well made, nice walk and talk, pinned shield, but I suspect it is some sort of reproduction and was wondering if anyone has any insight.
I was wondering if this may be one of the made in Germany Jim Parker reproductions that I have heard of.

P&G, I had that on my watch list as well and had the same concerns you have...it's a very nice knife but the Jim Parker question crept into my thoughts also...there are also two others in the same blade configuration (which I really like) from Henkels & Joyce and Miller Bros.

It's a very nice knife regardless of the concern:thumbup:

 

[screened porch]

Never mind. Not helpful.

 

[kootenay joe]

I had a similar knife: Congress Jack with Sheepsfoot & Pen blades marked Henckel & Joyce and it too looked brand new. I was told it was made by a guy who shows up at knife and gun shows with a bucket of knife parts and examples of his assembled knives. He was upfront that he had made the knives, that they are copies of old knives. Seems he had stamping dies for a number of old hardware store brands as is Wedgeway and H&J.
I recently saw one of these marked Miller Bros. on ebay which looked like the same guy's work
kj

 

[thawk]

I had a similar knife: Congress Jack with Sheepsfoot & Pen blades marked Henckel & Joyce and it too looked brand new. I was told it was made by a guy who shows up at knife and gun shows with a bucket of knife parts and examples of his assembled knives. He was upfront that he had made the knives, that they are copies of old knives. Seems he had stamping dies for a number of old hardware store brands as is Wedgeway and H&J.
I recently saw one of these marked Miller Bros. on ebay which looked like the same guy's work
kj

If true, the "guy" really should have his own stamp and a year for the other side of the blade.

 

[Pipeman]

If true, the "guy" really should have his own stamp and a year for the other side of the blade.

Exactly. It's not enough to tell people at a show that you "make" them. Without a mark stating that they are not what they seem the "guy" is just another faker. I'm surprised any show would allow him in.

Regards

Robin

 

[kootenay joe]

I agree, but don't 'shoot the messenger'. That info came from a long ago post in BRL forum but i don't doubt it as a few others chimed in that they too had seen likely the same guy with bucket of parts and finished knives.

Quote mckgreg 11/11/10:

There's an older guy that sets up at a lot of the Southeastern knife and gun shows that builds pocket knives from old parts. Makes phonies. He'll have a table covered with them and buckets of old blades and such. He sells them for between 20 and 50 bucks. That knife looks like one of his. I have bought a few of them from him for users. I've seen his knives on other tables at the very same show for 4 or 5 times what he would sell it to you for. The difference being, he tells you they are re-built knives if for some reason you can't see that and have to ask, the other seller isn't about to.
Greg

Here are a couple of the 20-30 buckers. The stag ones bring the big money but I couldn't see spending the extra bucks on a phony. The yellow/orange scale material is some sort of delrin type stuff.The thing about building phonies is you can stamp what ever you want on the tang. This guy likes to do a lot of arched stampings.

 

[Pipeman]

I agree, but don't 'shoot the messenger'. That info came from a long ago post in BRL forum but i don't doubt it as a few others chimed in that they too had seen likely the same guy with bucket of parts and finished knives.

Quote mckgreg 11/11/10:

There's an older guy that sets up at a lot of the Southeastern knife and gun shows that builds pocket knives from old parts. Makes phonies. He'll have a table covered with them and buckets of old blades and such. He sells them for between 20 and 50 bucks. That knife looks like one of his. I have bought a few of them from him for users. I've seen his knives on other tables at the very same show for 4 or 5 times what he would sell it to you for. The difference being, he tells you they are re-built knives if for some reason you can't see that and have to ask, the other seller isn't about to.
Greg

Here are a couple of the 20-30 buckers. The stag ones bring the big money but I couldn't see spending the extra bucks on a phony. The yellow/orange scale material is some sort of delrin type stuff.The thing about building phonies is you can stamp what ever you want on the tang. This guy likes to do a lot of arched stampings.

Congrats on finding the old Levine post, I can't find stuff I posted last month I think both of us were just commenting on the
guy who made the knives, no shooting the messenger.

Best regards

Robin

 

[67nick]

Yessir, I've run across a few of these reproduction congress jack as well. I bought two and once they arrived I knew that one was definitely too new to have its tang stamp. I ended up renegotiating with the seller and got a decent 2-4-1 deal. To the makers credit, they are very well made knives and I think the same person makes other patterns from time to time too. Here's a pic of the one I know is not original, it's a Robinson Bros.

 

[pistonsandgears]

Thanks everyone for the replies. Pretty much confirms my suspicions. It is a fairly nice knife non the less.