Weird question about guns

Starfish

Starfish

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Hi -

I have a friend in Florida with a CCW who went to Georgia with his gun. He lodged in Georgia, and upon returning to Florida realized that he left his gun in Georgia. :eek:

Said friend has contacted the lodging staff to arrange for an FFL transfer to his local dealer (upon my advice). The lodging staff has informed my friend that they were informed by "law enforcement" that they can only give the gun to my friend in person.

Now, this same lodging staff first agreed to send the gun by USPS, until they found out they could not do that. I do not think they are trying to scam my friend out of his gun, but I do wonder if they are misinformed about the laws.

All you Georgia members, is there a state law that would prevent a local FFL dealer from picking up the gun on behalf of my friend?

Thanks for your assistance,

Matthew
 
Well, I was going to point and laugh, but then I remembered that I once accidently took my gun to work in a courier bag.

I don't know about the legal situation, but if I were that hotel, I would seriously worry about the liability involved in handing that gun over to anyone other than the rightful owner. Perhaps he should suck it up and make a trip to GA.
 
Hi Starfish-

Your friend is a few hours drive away, for crying out loud. He should be in his car AT THIS VERY MOMENT driving northbound, rather than chattering back and forth about FFL transfers, liability, insurability, and other nonsense...

~ Blue Jays ~
 
Blue Jays said:
Hi Starfish-

Your friend is a few hours drive away, for crying out loud. He should be in his car AT THIS VERY MOMENT driving northbound, rather than chattering back and forth about FFL transfers, liability, insurability, and other nonsense...

~ Blue Jays ~
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Couldn't agree more.

(We drive from Largo to Tifton to meet friends for LUNCH, for Pete's sake! :cool: )
 
Agreed as well.

FYI, it is against US Postal Regulations to ship ANY firearm thru their system! :eek: I think said owner of that firearm is lucky the local authorities don' t confiscate that gun on site. And that the hotel personnel has offered to hold it for him. Go north young man!

N2
 
He can either find someone with an FFL license, at considerable trouble and expense, or follow the advice of the above posts.
 
Hi all,

My friend is about 8 hours away from the location of the firearm, and since the gun is an inexpensive make/model, he is reluctant to expend the time and money that a personal retrieval would entail.

(Just so you know: I understand the responses made so far. If it were me, I'd already be on the road!)

I guess it's time to tell him to go get it, or ask local law enforcement to come pick it up and dispose of it...

Thanks for your help,

Matthew
 
I wonder if anyone with a permit who doesn't know where his or her gun is should even have a permit?????????
 
Starfish said:
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Now, this same lodging staff first agreed to send the gun by USPS, until they found out they could not do that. I do not think they are trying to scam my friend out of his gun, but I do wonder if they are misinformed about the laws. ...
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It is illegal to send a firarms through the USPS unless it is shipped by a FFL holder to a FFl holder unless they changed it since 9/11. UPS Overnight from non FFL holder to FFL holder is legal though.
 
FYI, it is against US Postal Regulations to ship ANY firearm thru their system!
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Incorrect. You can ship a long gun through the US Mail, but not a handgun, unless it's FFL-to-FFL.
 
Practical Use said:
I wonder if anyone with a permit who doesn't know where his or her gun is should even have a permit?????????
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Nothin against your pal, but I couldn't agree with this more.

Purely irresponsible.
 
Hi Starfish-

Your friend forgot HIS gun with HIS registration and HIS fingerprints all over it and he isn't too concerned about how the firearm is being processed (or not...yikes) by hotel staff or police (perhaps neither...yikes again) whom he doesn't even know? :eek:

In the amount of time this thread has been open, your friend could have made this trip four consecutive times already. The monetary value isn't even a factor here. He has a MORAL responsibility to secure that firearm. My only hope is that Sarah Brady & Handgun Control, Inc. (don't be fooled by their new media-friendly name) aren't monitoring this thread. Offer to give your friend a ride...tell him he can thank you later.

Good luck,

~ Blue Jays ~
 
To the resident experts on ATF laws, I stand corrected. It was not my intention to throw around any conjecture nor heresay on this matter. In the future I will keep up to snuff on the ever changng myriad of firearms laws.

N2
 
Talk about an irresponsable attitude. He left a loaded gun somewhere and can't be bothered to drive back and get it? I'd be surprised if this doesn't cause him some real grief before this is done if he does have a permit. I'd also be surprised if an FFL to FFL transfer doesn't require some forms and signatures on the sender's end. I can see the hotel folks not wanting to deal with that from a liability standpoint.

John
 
jmxcpter said:
Talk about an irresponsable attitude. He left a loaded gun somewhere and can't be bothered to drive back and get it?
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I would be hesitant to issue a permit to someone as irresponsible as this guy...
 
Hi Starfish-

Just curious how this misplaced gun situation was resolved between your friend, the hotel, and the police. Hopefully it worked out well.

~ Blue Jays ~
 
You can mail an unloaded rifle or shotgun through USPS but if it's a handgun you're SOL. FFL's and manufacturers can mail handguns between each other but only as part of customary trade shipments or for repair/replacement of parts.

http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm/C024.htm#Xaq5787

Here's a link to the Domestic Mail Manual section.
 
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