Western W-49 and cleaning

OMEGA DOOM said:
...and is there any good cleaning stuff for knifes like oils and rocks

thxs for any info
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Why would you want to clean your "knifes" (knives) with rocks?.:D.
 
To protect the blade, its best to let it oxidize a bit. A little "patina" (sp?) keeps the blade from rusting. You can accomplish this quickly by rubbing some lemmon juice on the blade-- but don't keep it on there for too long--wipe it off after 20-30 seconds. Keep it clean after use, and maybe a little oil on the blade if you are going to store it for awhile. It is best not to store it in its sheath. Sence mine is a user, I'm not really concerned with its finish. So if my blade ever develops rust spots, I rub them off with a bit of brillo or an emory cloth, and let that spot re-oxidize (without rust). You can probably pick up a medium and a fine grit sharpening stone for pretty cheap at any hardware store. This knife doesn't have to be too sharp to power through the bush. The high-carbon steel lets it take a lot of abuse, though.
 
what about trees

im in the woods are there any trees that have oil or somthing in them that will work? :eek:
 
I don't know much about that... but the blade will oxidize slightly on its own. If you use it a lot, the area near the edge will be polished by all the wood chips and dismembered branches that the blade goes through. As long as you clean it and put it away dry it should never do you wrong. A little WD-40 never hurts.
 
Aren't the new W-49's made with 420 stainless? While there may be an edge holding issue, is there a corrosion issue with this knife?
 
ras said:
Aren't the new W-49's made with 420 stainless? While there may be an edge holding issue, is there a corrosion issue with this knife?
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the old one 440

is 440 better then 420
 
Usually 440 means 440A which should not be confused with 440C which is a pretty good blade steel. 440A has more carbon than 420 and should hold a better edge. Some verbage from Joe Talmadge's article seems appropriate...
(quote)
420
Lower carbon content (<.5%) than the 440 series makes this steel
extremely soft, and it doesn't hold an edge well. It is used often
for diving knives, as it is extremely stain resistant. Also used
often for very inexpensive knives. Outside salt water use, it is too
soft to be a good choice for a utility knife.

420HC
420 modified with more carbon, to be roughly comparable to 440A.

440 A - 440 B - 440C
The carbon content (and hardenability) of this stainless steel goes up
in order from A (.75%) to B (.9%) to C (1.2%). 440C is an excellent,
high-end stainless steel, usually hardened to around 56-58 Rc, very
tough and with good edge-holding at that hardness. 440C was the king
of stainless cutlery steels in the 1980s, before ATS-34 took the title
in the 1990s. All three resist rust well, with 440A being the most
rust resistant, and 440C the least. The SOG Seal 2000 is 440A, and
Randall uses 440B for their stainless knives. 440C is fairly
ubiquitous, and is generally considered a very good general-use
stainless, tougher and more stain resistant than ATS-34 but with less
edge-holding and weaker. If your knife is marked with just "440", it
is probably the less expensive 440A; if a manufacturer had used the
more expensive 440C, he'd want to advertise that. The general feeling
is that 440A (and similar steels, see below) is just good enough for
everyday use, especially with a good heat treat (we've heard good
reports on the heat treat of SOG's 440A blades, don't know who does
the work for them). 440-B is a very solid performer and 440-C is
excellent. (/quote)
 
OMEGA DOOM said:
what about trees

im in the woods are there any trees that have oil or somthing in them that will work? !:eek:
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LOL!
Animal fat is the closest thing in the woods that I can think of to do the job.
 
were the hell can i get the 440c Western W-49

:mad:

every one of the ones i looked at are fake

im ****ing pissd
 
I don't think there is a "real" W-49 Bowie that uses anything like 440c, unless it's old as you point out. In that case you need to looks at some sort of historic knife sales or autions.

The knife you are looking at is an inexpensively made knife. It does not use expensive materials.
 
Why are you so hung up on a "Bowie" knife? There are so many different "Bowie" knives and few of them resemble what Jim Bowie carried. Take a serious look at the Becker BK-9. Yes it will rust if you ignore it, but it sounds like you'll be using it enough so that's not an issue. It's a good design with good steel and if you take reasonable care it will serve you well.
 
Western never used 440C in the W-49, They used:

Carbon steel.
Chrome Vanadium.
440A.
420.

These are ordered froom oldest to newest.
 
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